It's very interesting that Nigel Farage has altered his position, to follow the Overton Window. He said deportations were impossible just a few months ago.
Nigel's political antennae are the best of any UK politician ever. (Maybe Blair pre-Iraq came close).
He will also have noticed what happens to any popular politician or party that transgresses to the right of the Overton Window -Le Pen, AfD, the guy who won the Rumanian presidential election. And of course Trump.
I'm so glad to see someone else who is CONFIDENT of Nigel's ability, and recognises the fact that his 30-odd years in politics have given him the ability to see the larger picture, and know PRECISELY what he is doing and why he's doing it! He has so rarely been wrong in his assumptions ans actions, I trust him 100% and will do so with UK's future!
Without the political expediency, Nigel would have been buried by the Establishment years ago. My daughter-in-law is a BBC journalist and she remarked that Farage is a racist when I announced I'd joined UKIP (in 2013). Since then I have been looking out for a racist comment from him and never heard one.
But it is possible that his supporters project their own policy preferences onto him and will be disappointed when/if he gets the opportunity to create policy.
I support every single one of those policies and I suspect that the majority of this country does too. What I ask is how did we get here? I believe that it is the destruction wrought by socialism but it is darker than that and it is the Blob that has been in charge. Not elected and not representative, it the the hopelessly led police, the politicised judiciary and all the other quango's and unelected influential bodies that have seized power from those elected to serve us. We need Reform.
There is one of those policies I cannot support as it will have the unintended consequence of encouraging the continued invasion of our country--that is the money bribe. Cannot you see it. they will still pour in so that we can send them packing with an unearned £2,500. Stupid idea. Otherwise the other policies are great and what I have been saying since 2010 when the Tories returned to power. I even said at that point to Greg Clark our MP that now was the time to repeal the Equalities Act. No, he thought there were good things in it!! Only for the lawyers.
It’s interesting that the elites immediately start banging on about the cost of the Reform ideas in monetary terms. Firstly, mass immigration in all forms, is costing us a small fortune. Secondly, the cost to our safety, our culture, our way of life and our values never seem to register on the radar of those elites despite the fact that they regard themselves as being the morally superior, kind ones. In other words, they’ll be kind to anyone and everyone just as long as they’re not white or working class. As far as I’m concerned, our culture, values, history safety and way of life are of far more importance than the monetary costs and I’m pretty try sure I speak for the majority. Our values, culture and history have developed over centuries. We’re not going to see them destroyed because a small number of virtue signalling elites think that we don’t count for anything.
Nigel may have said mass deportations were not possible a few months ago, but he knew that the situation was going to get worse and he would go back to his original belief AND more importantly he knew that by now Habib and Lowe would be exposed as failures. The racial abuse that Zia has been exposed to is shocking. But he is there alongside Nigel and working hard. The Cons may be wittering about the ECHR but they will NEVER do it. The Wets wont let them. The people of this country have been shouting for a long long time. They are behind Nigel and REFORM. Thats why he will win, because he is taking the people with him. No other Leader or party can do that now.
Deporting people to a country that will not accept them back is currently impossible. Even with UK legislative changes, if a country refuses its own people back, what are we to do?
First of all, the only way out of internment is to go home, wherever that might be. If their country will not have them back, then they stay in camps until they die. This will cost the UK taxpayer quite a bit. Therefore, it must be funded from any aid given to that country. If that does not work, then limit or remove visa entitlement. Finally, take a leaf out of Trump's book and start hiking tariffs.
A lot of clothes are bought from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. The pain would be quick, lasting and considerable.
As far as the boats are concerned, for every boat that reaches our waters, the EU loses a fishing licence. The EU controls (allegedly) its borders so very quickly member states would get very cross with France. Assuming 60 per boat, that is 417 individual boats. That is an awful lot of banned fishing vessels.
We also need to be much more forceful in the Channel. Stopping boats on the high seas is not easy, but the Border Force vessels are catamarans. I am sure that someone could design a deployable snow plough device to stop the boats until the fuel ran out, push them back into French waters and tell the French Coastguard to come and collect them.
Given the French navy brazenly accompanies these vessels to the point where it demands its life jackets back, a strong Royal Naval presence would be necessary up to and including opening fire on the French.
Even so, there are still something like 1.2 million illegals in the UK. An amnesty must be offered whereby they have three months to sell up and leave. This way they retain their money, After that, if they are caught, their assets are sequestered by the state and they are interned. This will take a lot of time and effort, so they should pay.
Another thing that should be done is to modify the NI number system. Various numbers will have restrictions and time limits on them. Those on PAYE will pop up in the system sooner or later at which point they can be arrested, interned and thrown out, losing their savings in the process. Equally, those exceeding their permitted working hours would be detected and thrown out.
Lots of these people go back to the old country for holidays. They must be checked out and if found to be here illegally, not allowed back. Any child born to illegal parents, one or both, will never have citizenship rights in the UK and also face deportation.
Another seldom discussed issue is subsequent generation immigrants andthose who throw away their original national passports. In future, our legislation must ensure that this loophole is closed. The registry of births and deaths must include that nationality of the parents. If dual, then both must be listed. The bottom line is that while you can become a British citizen, you will also remain a citizen of another country. Misbehave and back you go, right down through the generations.
A lot of young Muslims are keen on sharia law. Break our laws and your citizenship is revoked and back you go. Some mosques must be spied upon and radical preachers identified and thrown out. Keep doing it and the mosque will be bulldozed.
Finally, face coverings. Without a doctor's certificate, face coverings must be made illegal. Those who start screaming about their culture can go and live in a country with a similar culture. They are not doing it here. That would leave antifa with a problem because they are always masked up. Failure to remove face coverings, including goggles, would be an arrestable offence with swingeing fines and jail time for non payment.
Some good ideas here. Also cousin marriage must be banned. That is at the heart of the clan mentality of many immigrants from Pakistan, Africa, the Middle East etc. Their loyalty is to the clan or tribe and not to the nation state and its success. This also leads to corruption where the clan must gain, rather than doing what is right for the benefit of all in that society. Anyone who takes a child home to be married to a cousin should be banned from returning.
I forgot to mention that we also need sedition legislation. That would scoop up the likes of Care for Calais that is training the illegals on how to progress and what to demand once here. Doubtless there are many other 'charities' working to destroy the country and thus far, have done a pretty good job.
The bottom line is that this our country and our borders. Defending them is our job, not that of Freance, the EU or the UN.
If it is a country to whom we give aid - threaten to withdraw it, and follow through - no give, no get. II they persist, they become a rogue state and no flights, visas, passport holders will be allowed into the UK.
We need to leave ECHR (a treaty from 1950’s!!) and abolish/reform the human rights bill - this is Tony Blair’s legacy - the man who start mass immigration. The equality act is often used to evade accountability in the workplace. But hey, you can’t have everything 😪 this article is spot on.
We're also starting to see the Overton Window move in relation to men and boys, at long last. Their rights have been assaulted by the state's actions and inactions for many decades, we explored 20 areas in our last general election manifesto https://j4mb.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/c8af6-221128-j4mb-manifesto-3.pdf.
Hopefully Reform UK will adopt policies to address them, starting with the corrupt family courts system, which abuses children by denying them access to their fathers through false allegations of abuse, which the police don't investigate. The lawyers get rich and many men commit suicide as a result of being denied access to their beloved children.
It also needs total overhaul and reform of the Child Maintenance Service which favours resident parents, usually women. Women, for example those in same sex marriages, are also non resident parents and suffer discrimination too. Ann Widdecombe is the only politician I have heard speaking out about this. CMS is a total disgrace. It puts terrible strain on some parents and there seems to be no redress. You can’t even ask for where they get the numbers from. No one seems to know. They have blood on their hands.
For every father denied access to their children by the family courts there are others also affected - the child's uncles, aunts, grandparents, great-grandparents... I'm more often contacted by distraught grandmothers than by fathers. Collectively, a lot of votes to be had in this area alone.
Thanks Jane, they do indeed have blood on their hands. I believe Reform UK could secure millions more votes with a commitment to sort out the family courts and CMS.
Things are definitely moving, that’s for sure, and it is a delight to see. Nigel Farage coming out with Reform’s plans for dealing with the crisis is heartening, to say the least. The leftist commentators are clutching their pearls and getting spiteful, which is also encouraging. They see it, they can’t stop it. Expect more hysteria from that direction soon.
Finkelstein and co are having nightmares. They have lost the zeitgeist and they know it which explains why they lash out at anyone with an alternative view about the ‘wonders’ of mass uncontrolled legal and illegal immigration. Keep it up!
I am not stealing your thunder Matt, but I have been pushing for all on your list on the DT Comments pages for 2 years. I am delighted that these suggestions are becoming mainstream and that you have the coverage.
I am sick to death of having my life, country, culture and living standards being a the mercy of a bunch of frankly corrupt, lying dishonourable politicians of all rosettes. It is a long time since the excuse 'our hands are tied' has carried any weight with me. We are now a sovereign country again - that should no longer govern as EU lackeys - and can now revisit change/update any decades old previously signed treaties, laws etc.
I'd very much like to know who has been holding the metaphorical gun to the heads of MPs because I cannot believe that, short of this, any Party would constantly ignore the immigration content of their manifestos on which they were elected which is leading to major party suicide.
I agree with the aims set out here,but how are deportations of all illegal immigrants to be managed in practice? France and their countries of origin will refuse to take them.
Thank you Matt for some positive and uplifting information. And thank you for leading the way for the silent majority. The British spirit is rising and we will win, we will prove the elites and this appalling government that they have failed us and they will never be forgiven.
Thank you for this optimistic message. I am convinced that the patriots—those who defend British sovereignty, values, and identity—will ultimately win. Reading the comments, I see that many have concrete ideas to complement this plan and want other (sulfurous) issues to be addressed, in particular islamisation. Limits need to be clearly and firmly put. A society is exclusive, by definition.
Personally, I am very curious about the Bill of Rights 2.0, which I think is excellent.
One of my concerns is the law enforcement and judicial systems that will need to be involved to support this plan. This chaos has been made possible by the (slow?) politicisation of the police and the two-tiered justice system, which suggests a deeper institutional problem. I can't believe this topic has never come up in Reform UK's internal discussions.
I very much hope you are right, Matt.
It's very interesting that Nigel Farage has altered his position, to follow the Overton Window. He said deportations were impossible just a few months ago.
He’s caught up with Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib. I hope it’s genuine from Nigel. He’s been behind the curve on this one till the last few days.
Nigel's political antennae are the best of any UK politician ever. (Maybe Blair pre-Iraq came close).
He will also have noticed what happens to any popular politician or party that transgresses to the right of the Overton Window -Le Pen, AfD, the guy who won the Rumanian presidential election. And of course Trump.
I'm so glad to see someone else who is CONFIDENT of Nigel's ability, and recognises the fact that his 30-odd years in politics have given him the ability to see the larger picture, and know PRECISELY what he is doing and why he's doing it! He has so rarely been wrong in his assumptions ans actions, I trust him 100% and will do so with UK's future!
I used to think that but now I’m not so sure. I’d like commitment not political expediency but maybe I’m naive.
Yes so do I.
Without the political expediency, Nigel would have been buried by the Establishment years ago. My daughter-in-law is a BBC journalist and she remarked that Farage is a racist when I announced I'd joined UKIP (in 2013). Since then I have been looking out for a racist comment from him and never heard one.
But it is possible that his supporters project their own policy preferences onto him and will be disappointed when/if he gets the opportunity to create policy.
I support every single one of those policies and I suspect that the majority of this country does too. What I ask is how did we get here? I believe that it is the destruction wrought by socialism but it is darker than that and it is the Blob that has been in charge. Not elected and not representative, it the the hopelessly led police, the politicised judiciary and all the other quango's and unelected influential bodies that have seized power from those elected to serve us. We need Reform.
There is one of those policies I cannot support as it will have the unintended consequence of encouraging the continued invasion of our country--that is the money bribe. Cannot you see it. they will still pour in so that we can send them packing with an unearned £2,500. Stupid idea. Otherwise the other policies are great and what I have been saying since 2010 when the Tories returned to power. I even said at that point to Greg Clark our MP that now was the time to repeal the Equalities Act. No, he thought there were good things in it!! Only for the lawyers.
It’s interesting that the elites immediately start banging on about the cost of the Reform ideas in monetary terms. Firstly, mass immigration in all forms, is costing us a small fortune. Secondly, the cost to our safety, our culture, our way of life and our values never seem to register on the radar of those elites despite the fact that they regard themselves as being the morally superior, kind ones. In other words, they’ll be kind to anyone and everyone just as long as they’re not white or working class. As far as I’m concerned, our culture, values, history safety and way of life are of far more importance than the monetary costs and I’m pretty try sure I speak for the majority. Our values, culture and history have developed over centuries. We’re not going to see them destroyed because a small number of virtue signalling elites think that we don’t count for anything.
Thanks Matt and fly the flag. 🏴🇬🇧
Nigel may have said mass deportations were not possible a few months ago, but he knew that the situation was going to get worse and he would go back to his original belief AND more importantly he knew that by now Habib and Lowe would be exposed as failures. The racial abuse that Zia has been exposed to is shocking. But he is there alongside Nigel and working hard. The Cons may be wittering about the ECHR but they will NEVER do it. The Wets wont let them. The people of this country have been shouting for a long long time. They are behind Nigel and REFORM. Thats why he will win, because he is taking the people with him. No other Leader or party can do that now.
Deporting people to a country that will not accept them back is currently impossible. Even with UK legislative changes, if a country refuses its own people back, what are we to do?
First of all, the only way out of internment is to go home, wherever that might be. If their country will not have them back, then they stay in camps until they die. This will cost the UK taxpayer quite a bit. Therefore, it must be funded from any aid given to that country. If that does not work, then limit or remove visa entitlement. Finally, take a leaf out of Trump's book and start hiking tariffs.
A lot of clothes are bought from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. The pain would be quick, lasting and considerable.
As far as the boats are concerned, for every boat that reaches our waters, the EU loses a fishing licence. The EU controls (allegedly) its borders so very quickly member states would get very cross with France. Assuming 60 per boat, that is 417 individual boats. That is an awful lot of banned fishing vessels.
We also need to be much more forceful in the Channel. Stopping boats on the high seas is not easy, but the Border Force vessels are catamarans. I am sure that someone could design a deployable snow plough device to stop the boats until the fuel ran out, push them back into French waters and tell the French Coastguard to come and collect them.
Given the French navy brazenly accompanies these vessels to the point where it demands its life jackets back, a strong Royal Naval presence would be necessary up to and including opening fire on the French.
Even so, there are still something like 1.2 million illegals in the UK. An amnesty must be offered whereby they have three months to sell up and leave. This way they retain their money, After that, if they are caught, their assets are sequestered by the state and they are interned. This will take a lot of time and effort, so they should pay.
Another thing that should be done is to modify the NI number system. Various numbers will have restrictions and time limits on them. Those on PAYE will pop up in the system sooner or later at which point they can be arrested, interned and thrown out, losing their savings in the process. Equally, those exceeding their permitted working hours would be detected and thrown out.
Lots of these people go back to the old country for holidays. They must be checked out and if found to be here illegally, not allowed back. Any child born to illegal parents, one or both, will never have citizenship rights in the UK and also face deportation.
Another seldom discussed issue is subsequent generation immigrants andthose who throw away their original national passports. In future, our legislation must ensure that this loophole is closed. The registry of births and deaths must include that nationality of the parents. If dual, then both must be listed. The bottom line is that while you can become a British citizen, you will also remain a citizen of another country. Misbehave and back you go, right down through the generations.
A lot of young Muslims are keen on sharia law. Break our laws and your citizenship is revoked and back you go. Some mosques must be spied upon and radical preachers identified and thrown out. Keep doing it and the mosque will be bulldozed.
Finally, face coverings. Without a doctor's certificate, face coverings must be made illegal. Those who start screaming about their culture can go and live in a country with a similar culture. They are not doing it here. That would leave antifa with a problem because they are always masked up. Failure to remove face coverings, including goggles, would be an arrestable offence with swingeing fines and jail time for non payment.
Some good ideas here. Also cousin marriage must be banned. That is at the heart of the clan mentality of many immigrants from Pakistan, Africa, the Middle East etc. Their loyalty is to the clan or tribe and not to the nation state and its success. This also leads to corruption where the clan must gain, rather than doing what is right for the benefit of all in that society. Anyone who takes a child home to be married to a cousin should be banned from returning.
And the clan mentality is at the root of the grooming gangs, a self protecting, insular family mafia.
Exactly Cass. It’s like the mafia, look after and protect your own no matter what.
I forgot to mention that we also need sedition legislation. That would scoop up the likes of Care for Calais that is training the illegals on how to progress and what to demand once here. Doubtless there are many other 'charities' working to destroy the country and thus far, have done a pretty good job.
The bottom line is that this our country and our borders. Defending them is our job, not that of Freance, the EU or the UN.
Exactly
If it is a country to whom we give aid - threaten to withdraw it, and follow through - no give, no get. II they persist, they become a rogue state and no flights, visas, passport holders will be allowed into the UK.
Find some cojones, someone.
Yes. There are plenty of levers that can be used if our leaders have the necessary backbone.
How about ending housing welfare for illegals and apply the savings to deportation costs?
We need to leave ECHR (a treaty from 1950’s!!) and abolish/reform the human rights bill - this is Tony Blair’s legacy - the man who start mass immigration. The equality act is often used to evade accountability in the workplace. But hey, you can’t have everything 😪 this article is spot on.
We're also starting to see the Overton Window move in relation to men and boys, at long last. Their rights have been assaulted by the state's actions and inactions for many decades, we explored 20 areas in our last general election manifesto https://j4mb.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/c8af6-221128-j4mb-manifesto-3.pdf.
Hopefully Reform UK will adopt policies to address them, starting with the corrupt family courts system, which abuses children by denying them access to their fathers through false allegations of abuse, which the police don't investigate. The lawyers get rich and many men commit suicide as a result of being denied access to their beloved children.
JUSTICE FOR MEN & BOYS http://j4mb.org.uk
CAMPAIGN FOR MERIT IN BUSINESS http://c4mb.uk
LAUGHING AT FEMINISTS http://laughingatfeminists.com
It also needs total overhaul and reform of the Child Maintenance Service which favours resident parents, usually women. Women, for example those in same sex marriages, are also non resident parents and suffer discrimination too. Ann Widdecombe is the only politician I have heard speaking out about this. CMS is a total disgrace. It puts terrible strain on some parents and there seems to be no redress. You can’t even ask for where they get the numbers from. No one seems to know. They have blood on their hands.
For every father denied access to their children by the family courts there are others also affected - the child's uncles, aunts, grandparents, great-grandparents... I'm more often contacted by distraught grandmothers than by fathers. Collectively, a lot of votes to be had in this area alone.
I’m a grandmother. You’re right.
Thanks Jane, they do indeed have blood on their hands. I believe Reform UK could secure millions more votes with a commitment to sort out the family courts and CMS.
Things are definitely moving, that’s for sure, and it is a delight to see. Nigel Farage coming out with Reform’s plans for dealing with the crisis is heartening, to say the least. The leftist commentators are clutching their pearls and getting spiteful, which is also encouraging. They see it, they can’t stop it. Expect more hysteria from that direction soon.
Finkelstein and co are having nightmares. They have lost the zeitgeist and they know it which explains why they lash out at anyone with an alternative view about the ‘wonders’ of mass uncontrolled legal and illegal immigration. Keep it up!
Finkelstein was / is appalling. Big supporter of David Cameron.
I am not sure offering £2,500 to go back home again is such a good idea or it could become another incentive to get here in the first place.
I think there would be a cut-off date so that anyone arriving afterwards would face jail time.
That sounds better thank you
I am not stealing your thunder Matt, but I have been pushing for all on your list on the DT Comments pages for 2 years. I am delighted that these suggestions are becoming mainstream and that you have the coverage.
I am sick to death of having my life, country, culture and living standards being a the mercy of a bunch of frankly corrupt, lying dishonourable politicians of all rosettes. It is a long time since the excuse 'our hands are tied' has carried any weight with me. We are now a sovereign country again - that should no longer govern as EU lackeys - and can now revisit change/update any decades old previously signed treaties, laws etc.
I'd very much like to know who has been holding the metaphorical gun to the heads of MPs because I cannot believe that, short of this, any Party would constantly ignore the immigration content of their manifestos on which they were elected which is leading to major party suicide.
I agree with all those policies but my question would be how would Reform get the Civil Service to comply with administering the policies?
By firing any that don't comply. They're civil servants, it's time they stop acting like civil masters.
I agree with the aims set out here,but how are deportations of all illegal immigrants to be managed in practice? France and their countries of origin will refuse to take them.
Any country refusing to take then should be cut off the aid list and all visas to UK cancelled.
Thank you Matt for some positive and uplifting information. And thank you for leading the way for the silent majority. The British spirit is rising and we will win, we will prove the elites and this appalling government that they have failed us and they will never be forgiven.
I'm with Nigel and reform policies 100% I think he was just waiting for the right moment to make it crystal clear.
Thank you for this optimistic message. I am convinced that the patriots—those who defend British sovereignty, values, and identity—will ultimately win. Reading the comments, I see that many have concrete ideas to complement this plan and want other (sulfurous) issues to be addressed, in particular islamisation. Limits need to be clearly and firmly put. A society is exclusive, by definition.
Personally, I am very curious about the Bill of Rights 2.0, which I think is excellent.
One of my concerns is the law enforcement and judicial systems that will need to be involved to support this plan. This chaos has been made possible by the (slow?) politicisation of the police and the two-tiered justice system, which suggests a deeper institutional problem. I can't believe this topic has never come up in Reform UK's internal discussions.