Fantastic Matt……your persistence, along with others, has stuck a wedge in the door. It’s now no longer ‘unacceptable’ or ‘far right’ to push this issue and the key, as you say, is the acceptance that there is no economic benefit to immigration.The dam has burst (lots of metaphors here!). Starmer doesn’t believe a word he’s saying, of course (power by any means necessary) but he can be held to account now. Farage will create havens of illegal migrant free zones to set the example and everyone will want the same. Brilliant work….please don’t stop!
Of course, it might be too late. As well as closing the open door(s), we need to talk very seriously about remigration and deportation. But those subjects are a bit spicy for the normies who make up most native Britons.
Deporting illegals and criminals is not controversial for many people. Talk of remigration does cause concern, including to some of us here.
But if we can address the many unfair pull factors, we could make the UK less attractive to the wrong people without making the right people unwelcome. This could include:
1. review of social housing to address unfair treatment of native population
2. review of professions that disproportionately exclude the native population
3. no more two tier policing, no special treatment of minorities in relation to blasphemy, animal welfare, etc.
Always beware of politicians telling the public what the public want to hear.
Labour could suddenly ban overseas care staff, for example, not in order to open up jobs for locals but to cynically create a crisis so they can then say "we tried but it just didn't work, we simply must have more migrants after all".
Politicians love sound and fury to divert attention while they deliver more of the same. The Tories did this with the Rwanda scam and their grooming gangs inquiry that looked away from the towns with a problem.
Blair and Merkel criticised multiculturalism, having rubbed their respective people's noses in diversity.
Yes, keep hammering away at them Matt. And start talking more about the lifetime wage-earning skill sets of the people who are leaving vs the lifetime wage-earning skill sets of the people who are coming in. Net migration figures are misleading on the damage being caused to the economy, let alone everything else. It is perfectly acceptable to talk about this aspect of net migration without being accused of the R word.
This is the establishment's messaging - we are too lazy and useless to run our own country without importing superior, hard working migrants. There is no longer any genuine conservative main stream media.
Whatever Starmlin says, we know he lies. Even in the face of evidence of him saying one thing, he does another. He only cares about his image and how he is seen on the World Stage. Remember the Davos vs Westminster comment? That is all we need to know about what his priorities really are.
Good point Matt. Leaving aside the likelihood of Starmer actually doing anything effective on migration, the fact that he had to say it does mean things are moving in the right direction. Things that once could not be said, have been spoken about, and by a Labour Prime Minister. Reasons to be cheerful.
I know Starmer is going to do little or nothing, but the issue is out there now and no political party can ignore it. What was once verboten is now mainstream.
In 1998 I met my wife while working in Kyrgyzstan. We got married in 1999. She had a successful law practice representing many western companies and a a west European government. Conditions were deteriorating due to rising levels of corruption. Her practice suffered because she refused to comply.
We decided to move to London (I'm British) It was a nightmare. In order to get a 'wife' visa we had to prove we knew each other by producing phone records and letters. We lived together, had none but got the British consul plus a couple of ambassadors and heads of foreign businesses to provide affidavits that they knew us. (Incidentally, the Embassy invited us to functions so knew anyway) Next. my wife had to go to the neighbouring country for an interview with the Embassy plus a full medical including X ray and urine tests. We had to prove we had money, that we had somewhere to live together with an Estate agents certificate of its size. I had to prove I had a job waiting for me.
On arrival, my wife was given 12 months entry without recourse to public funds. I was classified 'UK Citizen entering for resettlement no recourse to public funds for three years'. My wife studied, became a UK solicitor has a Masters in tax law and is now a partner in a large firm. We have never taken anything from the state.
All this was during Tony Blair's second government. They certainly discriminated against Brits. Labour still do.
Your story reminds me of Daniel Shen Smith, whose wife is Chinese. He describes a similar tortuous process. He is also known as The Black Belt Barrister on YouTube.
Starmer has played into Reform’s hands. He’s made the debate on immigration mainstream and no longer “far right”. And whilst I welcome his white paper it goes nowhere near far enough and voters know instinctively that if they care about the No1 issue, there’s only one party to deal with it. Reform. Great work in making this happen Matt.
Starmer's words yesterday were yet more empty promises. Sound bites at best. Yes, it was very novel to hear him admit that we have a problem but will he and Labour actually do anything about it? I’ll believe it when I see it happening!
We're still paying France to escort boats across the channel. We still need to deport ALL ILEGALS AND FOREIGN PRISONERS. We still need to stop paying any foreign aid to Pakistan until they take ALL their illegals and criminals back!
We DO NOT need more foreign labour from India. We need to train more of our own British, English speaking, citizens in social care and pay them a decent wage instead of farming out our vulnerable children and elderly to ‘franchised’ Care Home Owners who charge extortionate rates to line their own pockets – how much of which is subsidised by British Tax payers?!
Don't we know it . . . ! Both Conservatives and Labour are hopeless at managing the country/finances. Our Civil Servants are clueless and more interested in party politics/DEI.
Instead of fixing the problems, too much has been outsourced to the cheapest bidder and customer service no longer exists!
All quangos need to be abolished - waste of time/money and no accountability.
It’s time all MP’s and their administrative staff were held to account; if they cannot do their job, they are sacked (no golden handshakes/pensions). We need/want full transparency and accountability.
My mother used to say “ one volunteer is worth ten pressed men.” Starmer and Labour are paying lip service to the feeling in the country and the policies of Reform to try and ensure their political survival . They are not doing it out of conviction . This will show in the implementation of the policies they have announced and the results. There will still be resistance from Labours left wing , the left leaning judiciary and civil service . The boat crossings are escalating and Labour do not have a plan worth the paper it’s written on to tackle it.
Farage has been consistent over thirty years , Reform believe what they are saying and people believe them as a result .
Labour have further cut the ground from under the Conservatives feet , you could reasonably wonder what is the point of the Tories any more .
What Labour have done is better than nothing but it would be foolish to be appeased by it and take our foot off the gas .
We must stay in the game and not retire to the bench . We need a Reform government for a lot more than immigration
When even the New Statesman is saying their polls underestimated Reform in the run up to May 1st you know the dial is shifting. The Reform express train is now hurtling down the track with Starmer tied to the rails. I always felt Brexit was just the first half, and that disposing of the uniparty is the second half. I hope after the next election with have a Government who believes in this country and its people. Let’s have our country back.
I thought it was a good speech. Almost a shopping list of things I would want to happen. Obviously I don't think he can deliver but it's a start. Where does this leave the Tories? I can't see them coming back from this.
Yes, but I'm not yet convinced that Reform by itself can outvote Labour in a General Election. The so-called Right is split into Conservative and Reform while Labour is not yet split in two, though this may be on the cards. Depends whether Labour MPs are more motivated by fear of losing their seats or are still motivated by the new orthodox ideology of immigration as the solution to all ills economic and cultural . A difficult choice for them, but not an ethical one, merely conflicting self-interest. Certainly, there won't be economic growth under Labour, you can't square the circle. Some people are going to get very nasty. The immediate prospect for this country is not enthralling, the damage has already been done..
Where it leaves the Tories, perhaps, is occupying the economic centre-right for the first time in 20 years, since Farage seems to have chosen "spend, spend, spend".
Well maybe it is a good sign, but a lefty lawyer who spent his early career defending human rights for immigrants is just putting on an act, he does not really believe it, his advisors think it is good to make an insignificant gesture to reduce legal immigration, no plan for the illegals at all, the illegals are the main concern of the public, men aged 18 to 25, no documents, no skills, no intention of integrating and totally alien beliefs. Many are criminals, some are back for the second or third time. the UK has to stop picking them up in the Channel and actually landing them in Dover. Just take them to an old cruise ship in the Channel, when it is full off it goes, back to France or Rwanda, but do not land them.
Another spot-on piece Matt! It strikes me that Starmer is attempting to pretend that, as regards the ills identified, Labour is Reform 2.0, whereas we all know it’s a charade. Starmer truly is a sheep in wolf’s clothing. Happily, in my view, no-one with any sense actually believes him or any other members of his Cabinet, including the awful Ms Cooper. I can’t wait for 2029, when this lot will be booted out with what’s likely to be a landslide …. for Reform. Let’s hope that, by then, the damage is not irreparable.
I have just bought Starmer’s Flip Flops on DVD. It is a boxed set of his first few months as PM. I’ve also subscribed for monthly updates for the next four years.
The good news is that Reform is putting massive pressure on the Uni party over the issue of immigration, but the bad news is that Starmer is a liar and has a cunning plan to reduce the impact of Reform, and the ability of the indigenous population to influence the governance of their own country. Starmer in his disengenuous speech yesterday, where he blamed the Conservatives for mass immigration (in fact Labour started it) made the point that Britain was becoming a nation of strangers, and consequently immigration must be reduced. However, the measures that he outlined will result in a reduction of 50,000 (if we are lucky) and they will be dwarfed by his plan, soon to be announced, that free-movement for EU citizens will be restored, allowing millions of Europeans to flood here, lowering wages and increasing housing costs and killing thousands more older British people who will be denied access to medical treatment.
But, that is only part of the plan; these new EU immigrants will be eligible to vote in local elections, and with a wave of the hand can be given voting rights in general elections, and whom will they vote for? EU-worshipping Labour of course! And, an added bonus is that as Labour's Muslim vote dissipates, it will be replaced with the votes from their new clients, from the EU! Cunning. Those meetings at No10 with Bill Gates and Black Rock will near fruition in the import of more cheap labour, so that the multinational corporations have access to the slave Labour force that they need, by-passing the annoying indigenous British workers and creating more mayhem and chaos in the social security system, which all helps in the WEF's plan to destroy national boundaries. Hands up who knows how many National Insurance numbers are in use in Britain? I'll tell you: over 100 million. So, either politicians are lying over the number of people living here, or the people living here are lying and are claiming benefits under multiple identities.
The comforting thing is, I doubt Labour can be that organised. They already want Starmer gone, along with his secret ‘vision’ and are too divided to make it to another term. Brexit happened, despite overwhelming sabotage attempts. Keep the faith.
Fantastic Matt……your persistence, along with others, has stuck a wedge in the door. It’s now no longer ‘unacceptable’ or ‘far right’ to push this issue and the key, as you say, is the acceptance that there is no economic benefit to immigration.The dam has burst (lots of metaphors here!). Starmer doesn’t believe a word he’s saying, of course (power by any means necessary) but he can be held to account now. Farage will create havens of illegal migrant free zones to set the example and everyone will want the same. Brilliant work….please don’t stop!
Of course, it might be too late. As well as closing the open door(s), we need to talk very seriously about remigration and deportation. But those subjects are a bit spicy for the normies who make up most native Britons.
Deporting illegals and criminals is not controversial for many people. Talk of remigration does cause concern, including to some of us here.
But if we can address the many unfair pull factors, we could make the UK less attractive to the wrong people without making the right people unwelcome. This could include:
1. review of social housing to address unfair treatment of native population
2. review of professions that disproportionately exclude the native population
3. no more two tier policing, no special treatment of minorities in relation to blasphemy, animal welfare, etc.
Always beware of politicians telling the public what the public want to hear.
Labour could suddenly ban overseas care staff, for example, not in order to open up jobs for locals but to cynically create a crisis so they can then say "we tried but it just didn't work, we simply must have more migrants after all".
Politicians love sound and fury to divert attention while they deliver more of the same. The Tories did this with the Rwanda scam and their grooming gangs inquiry that looked away from the towns with a problem.
Blair and Merkel criticised multiculturalism, having rubbed their respective people's noses in diversity.
Yes, keep hammering away at them Matt. And start talking more about the lifetime wage-earning skill sets of the people who are leaving vs the lifetime wage-earning skill sets of the people who are coming in. Net migration figures are misleading on the damage being caused to the economy, let alone everything else. It is perfectly acceptable to talk about this aspect of net migration without being accused of the R word.
Daily Telegraph headline today - "Why lazy Britons threaten Starmer’s migration crackdown".
Can anyone imagine a media outlet being allowed to smear any other ethnic or national group in this way?
This is the establishment's messaging - we are too lazy and useless to run our own country without importing superior, hard working migrants. There is no longer any genuine conservative main stream media.
I've been hammering this point for years.Net migration figures are meaningless when the calibre of those leaving is higher than those arriving.
Some hopeful news, however Starmer is not doing this for the good of this country but because he’s frightened of losing his job. It’s all about him.
Whatever Starmlin says, we know he lies. Even in the face of evidence of him saying one thing, he does another. He only cares about his image and how he is seen on the World Stage. Remember the Davos vs Westminster comment? That is all we need to know about what his priorities really are.
Great to see Starmer, Macron and Merz polishing their public images on that train from Kiev
Good point Matt. Leaving aside the likelihood of Starmer actually doing anything effective on migration, the fact that he had to say it does mean things are moving in the right direction. Things that once could not be said, have been spoken about, and by a Labour Prime Minister. Reasons to be cheerful.
The last Labour PM spoke of "British jobs for British workers".
I know Starmer is going to do little or nothing, but the issue is out there now and no political party can ignore it. What was once verboten is now mainstream.
He has also upset loads of his far left MPs, perhaps they will try to oust him.
In 1998 I met my wife while working in Kyrgyzstan. We got married in 1999. She had a successful law practice representing many western companies and a a west European government. Conditions were deteriorating due to rising levels of corruption. Her practice suffered because she refused to comply.
We decided to move to London (I'm British) It was a nightmare. In order to get a 'wife' visa we had to prove we knew each other by producing phone records and letters. We lived together, had none but got the British consul plus a couple of ambassadors and heads of foreign businesses to provide affidavits that they knew us. (Incidentally, the Embassy invited us to functions so knew anyway) Next. my wife had to go to the neighbouring country for an interview with the Embassy plus a full medical including X ray and urine tests. We had to prove we had money, that we had somewhere to live together with an Estate agents certificate of its size. I had to prove I had a job waiting for me.
On arrival, my wife was given 12 months entry without recourse to public funds. I was classified 'UK Citizen entering for resettlement no recourse to public funds for three years'. My wife studied, became a UK solicitor has a Masters in tax law and is now a partner in a large firm. We have never taken anything from the state.
All this was during Tony Blair's second government. They certainly discriminated against Brits. Labour still do.
Your story reminds me of Daniel Shen Smith, whose wife is Chinese. He describes a similar tortuous process. He is also known as The Black Belt Barrister on YouTube.
Whilst it’s painful , isn’t that kind of policy preferable to the invasion that is happening, has happened and probably will keep happening?
Starmer has played into Reform’s hands. He’s made the debate on immigration mainstream and no longer “far right”. And whilst I welcome his white paper it goes nowhere near far enough and voters know instinctively that if they care about the No1 issue, there’s only one party to deal with it. Reform. Great work in making this happen Matt.
Starmer's words yesterday were yet more empty promises. Sound bites at best. Yes, it was very novel to hear him admit that we have a problem but will he and Labour actually do anything about it? I’ll believe it when I see it happening!
We're still paying France to escort boats across the channel. We still need to deport ALL ILEGALS AND FOREIGN PRISONERS. We still need to stop paying any foreign aid to Pakistan until they take ALL their illegals and criminals back!
We DO NOT need more foreign labour from India. We need to train more of our own British, English speaking, citizens in social care and pay them a decent wage instead of farming out our vulnerable children and elderly to ‘franchised’ Care Home Owners who charge extortionate rates to line their own pockets – how much of which is subsidised by British Tax payers?!
Many care home owners are themselves from overseas. Still, so is the ownership of much of our industry.
Don't we know it . . . ! Both Conservatives and Labour are hopeless at managing the country/finances. Our Civil Servants are clueless and more interested in party politics/DEI.
Instead of fixing the problems, too much has been outsourced to the cheapest bidder and customer service no longer exists!
All quangos need to be abolished - waste of time/money and no accountability.
It’s time all MP’s and their administrative staff were held to account; if they cannot do their job, they are sacked (no golden handshakes/pensions). We need/want full transparency and accountability.
My mother used to say “ one volunteer is worth ten pressed men.” Starmer and Labour are paying lip service to the feeling in the country and the policies of Reform to try and ensure their political survival . They are not doing it out of conviction . This will show in the implementation of the policies they have announced and the results. There will still be resistance from Labours left wing , the left leaning judiciary and civil service . The boat crossings are escalating and Labour do not have a plan worth the paper it’s written on to tackle it.
Farage has been consistent over thirty years , Reform believe what they are saying and people believe them as a result .
Labour have further cut the ground from under the Conservatives feet , you could reasonably wonder what is the point of the Tories any more .
What Labour have done is better than nothing but it would be foolish to be appeased by it and take our foot off the gas .
We must stay in the game and not retire to the bench . We need a Reform government for a lot more than immigration
When even the New Statesman is saying their polls underestimated Reform in the run up to May 1st you know the dial is shifting. The Reform express train is now hurtling down the track with Starmer tied to the rails. I always felt Brexit was just the first half, and that disposing of the uniparty is the second half. I hope after the next election with have a Government who believes in this country and its people. Let’s have our country back.
References to Starmer and trains are a bit unkind just now
After Starmer latest, the total shafting of British fishermen and women, as well as using the EU defence deal to rejoin -
I am very happy to talk about him and trains.
Absolutely, so am I
I agree with all that you've said Matt, but we're Smarmers lips moving? If so then he was performing a "terminological inexactitude".
I thought it was a good speech. Almost a shopping list of things I would want to happen. Obviously I don't think he can deliver but it's a start. Where does this leave the Tories? I can't see them coming back from this.
Yes, but I'm not yet convinced that Reform by itself can outvote Labour in a General Election. The so-called Right is split into Conservative and Reform while Labour is not yet split in two, though this may be on the cards. Depends whether Labour MPs are more motivated by fear of losing their seats or are still motivated by the new orthodox ideology of immigration as the solution to all ills economic and cultural . A difficult choice for them, but not an ethical one, merely conflicting self-interest. Certainly, there won't be economic growth under Labour, you can't square the circle. Some people are going to get very nasty. The immediate prospect for this country is not enthralling, the damage has already been done..
Where it leaves the Tories, perhaps, is occupying the economic centre-right for the first time in 20 years, since Farage seems to have chosen "spend, spend, spend".
That's probably the only way for them to go. Their record speaks for itself though.
Indeed. They'd be much better off without the Truss interlude.
Well maybe it is a good sign, but a lefty lawyer who spent his early career defending human rights for immigrants is just putting on an act, he does not really believe it, his advisors think it is good to make an insignificant gesture to reduce legal immigration, no plan for the illegals at all, the illegals are the main concern of the public, men aged 18 to 25, no documents, no skills, no intention of integrating and totally alien beliefs. Many are criminals, some are back for the second or third time. the UK has to stop picking them up in the Channel and actually landing them in Dover. Just take them to an old cruise ship in the Channel, when it is full off it goes, back to France or Rwanda, but do not land them.
We need to intensify the pressure.
I'll make the rules stricter. That'll sort it while I'm smashing the gangs, too!
<leaves borders open>
Another spot-on piece Matt! It strikes me that Starmer is attempting to pretend that, as regards the ills identified, Labour is Reform 2.0, whereas we all know it’s a charade. Starmer truly is a sheep in wolf’s clothing. Happily, in my view, no-one with any sense actually believes him or any other members of his Cabinet, including the awful Ms Cooper. I can’t wait for 2029, when this lot will be booted out with what’s likely to be a landslide …. for Reform. Let’s hope that, by then, the damage is not irreparable.
I have just bought Starmer’s Flip Flops on DVD. It is a boxed set of his first few months as PM. I’ve also subscribed for monthly updates for the next four years.
Am not sure that’s wise Ian. You could end up laughing uproariously or of a murde rous intent of a someone!
The good news is that Reform is putting massive pressure on the Uni party over the issue of immigration, but the bad news is that Starmer is a liar and has a cunning plan to reduce the impact of Reform, and the ability of the indigenous population to influence the governance of their own country. Starmer in his disengenuous speech yesterday, where he blamed the Conservatives for mass immigration (in fact Labour started it) made the point that Britain was becoming a nation of strangers, and consequently immigration must be reduced. However, the measures that he outlined will result in a reduction of 50,000 (if we are lucky) and they will be dwarfed by his plan, soon to be announced, that free-movement for EU citizens will be restored, allowing millions of Europeans to flood here, lowering wages and increasing housing costs and killing thousands more older British people who will be denied access to medical treatment.
But, that is only part of the plan; these new EU immigrants will be eligible to vote in local elections, and with a wave of the hand can be given voting rights in general elections, and whom will they vote for? EU-worshipping Labour of course! And, an added bonus is that as Labour's Muslim vote dissipates, it will be replaced with the votes from their new clients, from the EU! Cunning. Those meetings at No10 with Bill Gates and Black Rock will near fruition in the import of more cheap labour, so that the multinational corporations have access to the slave Labour force that they need, by-passing the annoying indigenous British workers and creating more mayhem and chaos in the social security system, which all helps in the WEF's plan to destroy national boundaries. Hands up who knows how many National Insurance numbers are in use in Britain? I'll tell you: over 100 million. So, either politicians are lying over the number of people living here, or the people living here are lying and are claiming benefits under multiple identities.
We know it is a mixture of both, Colin. The good old DWP and it's culture of the (non native) customer (formerly claimant) is to be believed.
The comforting thing is, I doubt Labour can be that organised. They already want Starmer gone, along with his secret ‘vision’ and are too divided to make it to another term. Brexit happened, despite overwhelming sabotage attempts. Keep the faith.