You forget that Starmer is a self confessed Trotskyite and his Gang is riddled with Fabians who believe sovereign nation states shuld be abolished and replaced with a global socialist order ruled by unelected dictators like Starmer, Hermer and Reeves.
Starmer will do anything to advance global socialism. The national interest and patriotism mean nothing to him. He nd his Gang are the enemy of Britain, vastly more dangerous than Putin, and great advocates for Communist China, for any flavour of communism.
The honeymoon is over — and Keir Starmer has been exposed.
Labour’s Chagos deal isn’t diplomacy. It’s a surrender note.
Britain hands over sovereign territory, forks out £34 billion of taxpayers’ cash, and then begs to rent back one of the most important military bases on Earth. For what? Absolutely nothing. No security gain. No moral victory. No benefit to Britain — or the Chagossians.
And the excuse? A legal ruling that wasn’t even binding. An “inevitable” decision that never was. Ministers knew it. Officials knew it. Yet they spun the lie anyway, hoping no one would notice.
They nearly got away with it — until Donald Trump said what everyone else was too polite to say: this was an act of “GREAT STUPIDITY”.
He was right.
A Labour Party obsessed with “human rights” ignored the Chagossians entirely. A government that preaches sovereignty abroad gave ours away at home. And a Prime Minister who promised seriousness delivered farce.
This wasn’t statesmanship.
It was weakness — wrapped in legal waffle and paid for by us.
It is easily compehensible if you remember that Starmer is a self-confessed Trotskyite and his Gang is riddled with Fabians. The Chagos deal is exactly what I would expect such people to do. Starmer's Gang is clearly in league with China.
This one might really give Starmer and his cronies a breakdown . An international treaty has been signed. To Starmer that is sacrosanct. The equivalent of a tablet of stone from Moses . If he has to roll back on this one it will leave him with no credibility in his own eyes. He already has none in ours . Time to go .
Starmer has spent the majority of his working life defending the interests of our enemies as a 'human rights' lawyer. Nothing changes, he is not fit for purpose but name one politician who is - Farage for me in a very limited field; we have no other choice..
Exactly . Starmer is championing the rights of Greenlanders to self determination, but not even consulting Chagossians . You don’t know where Starmer stands.
who pushed the hapless PM into this should be sacked. Foremost of course is Lord Hermer. Someone who constantly uses claptrap about International Law to deliberately damage this country, whether it be on immigration or anything else. If
the Chagos Islands deal is ratified, I hope a Reform government will find some way of scrapping it.
Tory peers were instructed by their leader NOT to stop the legislation which was to authorise the transaction. It is said that CMD put a stop to negotiations which earlier Tory Foreign Ministers had been engaged in.
It seems that all the old parties in Westminster wish harm to the country.
You just knew it was stupid when our Green MP voted in favour of it. She supports Palestine Action, Inheritance Tax on farmers, and thinks we should rejoin the EU. My point is made.
An action of extreme self harm, unnecessary and as Trump says, quite stupid. I feel so sad that this country is going downhill but that is what I expected under Labour: it always happens under socialism. What I cannot understand is why Starmer never ever acts in the best interests of his own - and our - country. He acts out of spite and socialist dogma, and socialism never ever works it only destroys wealth. Starmer will never be forgiven and will go down as possibly the worst PM for a century - among a very strong field it has to be said.
Added to all of your pertinent reasons for this deal being thrown out…..Please note that a letter was sent to Trump on 7 Sept 2025, signed by a long list of senior uk people, including Lords, MP’s and Party and Military Leaders, explaining that Mauritius is bound by the Pelindaba Treaty. This is a nuclear free zone agreement. There is sufficient legal ambiguity therefore into the presence and movement of nuclear capable US forces on Chagos. The Chinese influence over Mauritius would seem to indicate that China would do everything in its power to remove nuclear capability from the Chagos islands, making the US base there essentially inoperable. Strange that Labour ‘overlooked’ that issue whilst checking out the legals on the deal…….
The Reform Leader has played a blinder. Protecting our National interest while the Tories and Labour betray and deceive. Helped by the Foreign Office who are embarrassed to represent this country but quite happy to take orders from Brussels.
'Great stupidity' AND it is: ignorant, treacherous, and traitorous. It does however, allow the Marxist/Leninist 'Custard' Starmer to please his Marxist/Leninist friend Xi jin-ping.
Why didn’t Trump reject the proposal last year. It was simply outside his attention span. It tells us a lot about Trump’s intelligence, (and Starmer’s). Paying a non-trivial sum of money to give away a property is just stupid. Starmer will probably do his 14th U-Turn on Chagos.
Trump and Rubio etc., were originally fooled over the Chagos Island by Labour government. Bullshit lies over International Law. Whatever anyone thinks about Trump he would never ever surrender US territory, let alone pay someone to take it!!!
I suspect Trump did an about turn on Chagos as a retaliation against Starmer for taking sides against him over Greenland. All schoolboy playground stuff.
Some quotes from ‘THe Hidden Hand – Exposing How The Chinese Communist Party is Reshaping The World’ by Clive Hamilton and Mareike Ohlberg (published 2020):
‘In our judgement, so entrenched are the CCP’s influence networks among British elites that Britain has passed the point of no return, and any attempt to extricate itself from Beijing’s orbit would probably fail.’
“In 1954, a group of forty-eight British businessmen travelled to Beijing to establish trade relations with the PRC. On their return they founded the 48 Group of British Traders with China, chaired by Jack Perry. The current list of those in China and Britain who play a role in the 48 Group Club, which grew out of the original 48 Group, is a who’s who of power elites. The well-known names on the British side include former prime minister Tony Blair; former deputy prime minister Michael Heseltine; former deputy prime minister John Prescott; the billionaire Duke of Westminster; foreign minister in the Blair government Jack Straw; Alex Salmond, former first minister of Scotland; former Labour Party powerbroker and European trade commissioner Peter Mandelson; and Nirj Deva. There are also five former British ambassadors to Beijing, masters of colleges at Oxford and Cambridge, a retired general, the chairman and director of the British Museum, the chief executive of the Royal Opera House, the chair of British Airways, a director of Huawei, and people closely linked to the Bank of England, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan. Among the less prominent members who appear elsewhere in this book are Lady Katy Tse Blair, Tony Blair’s well-connected sister-in-law; Tom Glocer, former CEO of Thomson Reuters; Professor Peter Nolan, University of Cambridge; and Professor Hugo de Burgh, University of Westminster.”
I believe you are right. No way is it stupidity. DJT employs a euphemism deliberately. He knows exactly what is going on re the UK, the CCP and much more. Think deception in Sun Tzu and The Art of War, and we are indeed in a fifth generation information war.
However, as I have commented above, timing is everything with Trump. Everything is carefully choreographed as far as it can be, and to deal Starmer such a blow just before Davos, where DJT is centre stage is superb timing. The deal can be undone, and I believe it will be ultimately.
Indeed Sun Tzu, whose thinking was paralleled by some Chinese colonels in the 1990s, as revealed in this quote (from Robert Spalding's 'Stealth War'):
"Perhaps the most important and revealing... is a 1999 work called Unrestricted Warfare. Written by two senior colonels in China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA), Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, it outlined a number of strategies to tilt the balance of power throughout the globe in China’s favor. It should be required reading for all branches of the US government and for business leaders, because it outlines, in no uncertain terms, the strategy behind China’s policies in the world. Here is a short, chilling passage:
'The new principles of war are no longer “using armed force to compel the enemy to submit to one’s will,” but rather are “using all means, including armed force or non-armed force, military and non-military, and lethal and non-lethal means to compel the enemy to accept one’s interests.'”
Spalding also comments that 'Unresticted Warfare' is "arguably the most important philosophical and strategic book about warfare of our generation". I suspect that Trump and/or his advisors, have read it.
I agree it's choreographed (and Trump definitely knows we're even paying for the deal, not profiting, despite his faux-naive jibes). However, I fear Trump is underestimating the goverrnment's idiocy, as the US President hasn't got an actual veto on the deal. I think Starmer might blunder on, regardless, especially when you see how he rolls over to China.
GREAT STUPIDITY is Starmer's stock-in-trade. See: Chinese Embassy, Digital ID, Family Farm Tax, etc., etc.
You forget that Starmer is a self confessed Trotskyite and his Gang is riddled with Fabians who believe sovereign nation states shuld be abolished and replaced with a global socialist order ruled by unelected dictators like Starmer, Hermer and Reeves.
Starmer will do anything to advance global socialism. The national interest and patriotism mean nothing to him. He nd his Gang are the enemy of Britain, vastly more dangerous than Putin, and great advocates for Communist China, for any flavour of communism.
Let’s hope Trump makes enough noise to make Starmer do yet another u turn.
The honeymoon is over — and Keir Starmer has been exposed.
Labour’s Chagos deal isn’t diplomacy. It’s a surrender note.
Britain hands over sovereign territory, forks out £34 billion of taxpayers’ cash, and then begs to rent back one of the most important military bases on Earth. For what? Absolutely nothing. No security gain. No moral victory. No benefit to Britain — or the Chagossians.
And the excuse? A legal ruling that wasn’t even binding. An “inevitable” decision that never was. Ministers knew it. Officials knew it. Yet they spun the lie anyway, hoping no one would notice.
They nearly got away with it — until Donald Trump said what everyone else was too polite to say: this was an act of “GREAT STUPIDITY”.
He was right.
A Labour Party obsessed with “human rights” ignored the Chagossians entirely. A government that preaches sovereignty abroad gave ours away at home. And a Prime Minister who promised seriousness delivered farce.
This wasn’t statesmanship.
It was weakness — wrapped in legal waffle and paid for by us.
Beautifully put, it is incomprehensible.
It is easily compehensible if you remember that Starmer is a self-confessed Trotskyite and his Gang is riddled with Fabians. The Chagos deal is exactly what I would expect such people to do. Starmer's Gang is clearly in league with China.
It is treachery.
Stupidity really is an understatement .
This one might really give Starmer and his cronies a breakdown . An international treaty has been signed. To Starmer that is sacrosanct. The equivalent of a tablet of stone from Moses . If he has to roll back on this one it will leave him with no credibility in his own eyes. He already has none in ours . Time to go .
Starmer has spent the majority of his working life defending the interests of our enemies as a 'human rights' lawyer. Nothing changes, he is not fit for purpose but name one politician who is - Farage for me in a very limited field; we have no other choice..
Why don't Chagossians have human rights - to their own islands?
Exactly . Starmer is championing the rights of Greenlanders to self determination, but not even consulting Chagossians . You don’t know where Starmer stands.
The Chagos “deal” is not just stupid.
Stupidity can be forgiven, at least sometimes.
This was sheer treachery! Those
who pushed the hapless PM into this should be sacked. Foremost of course is Lord Hermer. Someone who constantly uses claptrap about International Law to deliberately damage this country, whether it be on immigration or anything else. If
the Chagos Islands deal is ratified, I hope a Reform government will find some way of scrapping it.
Tory peers were instructed by their leader NOT to stop the legislation which was to authorise the transaction. It is said that CMD put a stop to negotiations which earlier Tory Foreign Ministers had been engaged in.
It seems that all the old parties in Westminster wish harm to the country.
You just knew it was stupid when our Green MP voted in favour of it. She supports Palestine Action, Inheritance Tax on farmers, and thinks we should rejoin the EU. My point is made.
An action of extreme self harm, unnecessary and as Trump says, quite stupid. I feel so sad that this country is going downhill but that is what I expected under Labour: it always happens under socialism. What I cannot understand is why Starmer never ever acts in the best interests of his own - and our - country. He acts out of spite and socialist dogma, and socialism never ever works it only destroys wealth. Starmer will never be forgiven and will go down as possibly the worst PM for a century - among a very strong field it has to be said.
Let’s hope it ditches Labour for good. Socialism almost always brings poverty and corruption.
Absolutely right Matt. One other point the £34B further comes out of and further diminishes our already beleaguered and underfunded defence budget.
Added to all of your pertinent reasons for this deal being thrown out…..Please note that a letter was sent to Trump on 7 Sept 2025, signed by a long list of senior uk people, including Lords, MP’s and Party and Military Leaders, explaining that Mauritius is bound by the Pelindaba Treaty. This is a nuclear free zone agreement. There is sufficient legal ambiguity therefore into the presence and movement of nuclear capable US forces on Chagos. The Chinese influence over Mauritius would seem to indicate that China would do everything in its power to remove nuclear capability from the Chagos islands, making the US base there essentially inoperable. Strange that Labour ‘overlooked’ that issue whilst checking out the legals on the deal…….
As usual Matt: clear, succinct and powerfully put. U-turn in view I hope.
The Reform Leader has played a blinder. Protecting our National interest while the Tories and Labour betray and deceive. Helped by the Foreign Office who are embarrassed to represent this country but quite happy to take orders from Brussels.
'........... take orders from Brussels' and from Beijing!
'Great stupidity' AND it is: ignorant, treacherous, and traitorous. It does however, allow the Marxist/Leninist 'Custard' Starmer to please his Marxist/Leninist friend Xi jin-ping.
Why didn’t Trump reject the proposal last year. It was simply outside his attention span. It tells us a lot about Trump’s intelligence, (and Starmer’s). Paying a non-trivial sum of money to give away a property is just stupid. Starmer will probably do his 14th U-Turn on Chagos.
Trump and Rubio etc., were originally fooled over the Chagos Island by Labour government. Bullshit lies over International Law. Whatever anyone thinks about Trump he would never ever surrender US territory, let alone pay someone to take it!!!
Let’s hope he does the same on the Chinese Mega Embassy decision which should/must be overturned.
I suspect Trump did an about turn on Chagos as a retaliation against Starmer for taking sides against him over Greenland. All schoolboy playground stuff.
However, if it rescues Chagos... good for Trump!
Precisely. I'm sure Trump's lawyers knew all along that the ruling wasn't binding. If they didn't, they deserve to be sacked.
At least one person in the US administration knew what was what: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6peKsSEaXk
Stupidity, or what?
Some quotes from ‘THe Hidden Hand – Exposing How The Chinese Communist Party is Reshaping The World’ by Clive Hamilton and Mareike Ohlberg (published 2020):
‘In our judgement, so entrenched are the CCP’s influence networks among British elites that Britain has passed the point of no return, and any attempt to extricate itself from Beijing’s orbit would probably fail.’
“In 1954, a group of forty-eight British businessmen travelled to Beijing to establish trade relations with the PRC. On their return they founded the 48 Group of British Traders with China, chaired by Jack Perry. The current list of those in China and Britain who play a role in the 48 Group Club, which grew out of the original 48 Group, is a who’s who of power elites. The well-known names on the British side include former prime minister Tony Blair; former deputy prime minister Michael Heseltine; former deputy prime minister John Prescott; the billionaire Duke of Westminster; foreign minister in the Blair government Jack Straw; Alex Salmond, former first minister of Scotland; former Labour Party powerbroker and European trade commissioner Peter Mandelson; and Nirj Deva. There are also five former British ambassadors to Beijing, masters of colleges at Oxford and Cambridge, a retired general, the chairman and director of the British Museum, the chief executive of the Royal Opera House, the chair of British Airways, a director of Huawei, and people closely linked to the Bank of England, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan. Among the less prominent members who appear elsewhere in this book are Lady Katy Tse Blair, Tony Blair’s well-connected sister-in-law; Tom Glocer, former CEO of Thomson Reuters; Professor Peter Nolan, University of Cambridge; and Professor Hugo de Burgh, University of Westminster.”
I believe you are right. No way is it stupidity. DJT employs a euphemism deliberately. He knows exactly what is going on re the UK, the CCP and much more. Think deception in Sun Tzu and The Art of War, and we are indeed in a fifth generation information war.
However, as I have commented above, timing is everything with Trump. Everything is carefully choreographed as far as it can be, and to deal Starmer such a blow just before Davos, where DJT is centre stage is superb timing. The deal can be undone, and I believe it will be ultimately.
Indeed Sun Tzu, whose thinking was paralleled by some Chinese colonels in the 1990s, as revealed in this quote (from Robert Spalding's 'Stealth War'):
"Perhaps the most important and revealing... is a 1999 work called Unrestricted Warfare. Written by two senior colonels in China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA), Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, it outlined a number of strategies to tilt the balance of power throughout the globe in China’s favor. It should be required reading for all branches of the US government and for business leaders, because it outlines, in no uncertain terms, the strategy behind China’s policies in the world. Here is a short, chilling passage:
'The new principles of war are no longer “using armed force to compel the enemy to submit to one’s will,” but rather are “using all means, including armed force or non-armed force, military and non-military, and lethal and non-lethal means to compel the enemy to accept one’s interests.'”
Spalding also comments that 'Unresticted Warfare' is "arguably the most important philosophical and strategic book about warfare of our generation". I suspect that Trump and/or his advisors, have read it.
Let’s hope so or else….
I agree it's choreographed (and Trump definitely knows we're even paying for the deal, not profiting, despite his faux-naive jibes). However, I fear Trump is underestimating the goverrnment's idiocy, as the US President hasn't got an actual veto on the deal. I think Starmer might blunder on, regardless, especially when you see how he rolls over to China.