Hear, hear James, agree with every word. As someone who has been fighting gender ideology for years, I’m sick to the back teeth of women being expected to ‘be kind’, to put themselves second to entitled, demanding men. It’s not our job to act as human shields to protect deluded men. Men need to budge up and find a suitable safe space for them. Most of the women in prison have already been abused and intimidated by men. I can’t imagine the terror that they must feel when confronted in a space that they can’t escape from, with someone who is deluded enough to think they can change sex and that everyone else has to comply with the delusion. No a thousand times no! And no decent man would want to impose on women in that way so by the very nature of their demands, they are not decent.
It’s an absolutely bizarre response from Reform to one of the easiest questions in politics. Should men who say they’re women be in women’s prisons? It should be as straightforward to answer as “Should babies be allowed to drive cars?” Of course not.
But such is the institutional derangement and moral cowardice surrounding gender ideology that even Reform can’t bring itself to state the obvious without caveats and “case-by-case” waffle.
What are they thinking? Who exactly are they afraid of upsetting? The Guardian?
Here’s the formula: every time you equivocate on basic truths, you risk losing the very people who turned to you because the mainstream parties lost their minds. Learn it and get a grip.
A very important comment. I too am wavering on my supprt for Reform and feeling a sense of hopelessness as they felt like our only route out of this mess and away from the present bunch of effetes in the uni party. Where now? I hold on to a small measure of hope since joining the New Culture Forum and encourage others to support them. Matt occasionally pops up in their intelligent, informed and sane discussions. Worth a fiver a month of anyone's money!
It's worth doing. They hold enjoyable conferences and have started a literary festival and you can join local NCF groups to meet and talk to like-minded people.
Yes, yes, yes!!! This is the hill I would die on and James’ comments are music to my ears! Common sense, reality based and sweeping aside all the nonsense that has haunted women for years. I cannot think of any good reason why Reform would not adopt this immediately.
Their messaging on various topics appears inconsistent, which doesn’t need to be the case. This inconsistency only serves to fuel opposition claims of disorganisation and lack of seriousness. A clear, detailed, and firm policy platform is crucial to avoid ambiguity and damage limitation videos being hastily issued the following day. This is especially important in light of a contentious issue like this.
Brilliant summary and great guest essay by James Esses! It's a real powerful addition to the MG substack.
I think that list of damage is telling. And all facilitated by people who said that all they asked of us was to 'be kind' and 'be respectful' of people. Look at all the unintended (?!) consequences:
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- The children who have been left sterilised and mutilated by experimental puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.
- The schools teaching our children they may have been born in the wrong body.
- The sub-standard male athletes who have infiltrated women’s sports and athletics.
- The deviant men who have sought to gain access to women’s toilets, hospital wards and refuges.
- The men and women who have lost their jobs and livelihoods for daring to express biological reality.
- And the ‘non-crime hate incidents’ that have been recorded against people who have stood up against the compelled speech of ‘preferred pronouns’
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It reminds me a bit of the Online Safety Act. All Peter Kyle is asking is for us to 'protect children'.
Except....that's not really what it is about....is it Peter! It's about control.
It's the thin end of the wedge. The slippery slope.
We need to start listening to the people who warned us about it years ago. Not the people who tried to manipulate us into 'being kind'.
I was absolutely appalled at Widdicome's article. She used she and her to describe men. She actually said these men pose no risk because "they no longer wish to have sex with women". Reform are now worse than Labour on this. I am shocked that this is their position and it is a vote-loser for me. However I also am not surprised seeing as Farage said a few weeks back that a Welshman is anyone who has lived in Wales for 5-6 years. They are not a party capable of confronting the polite fictions that go against biological reality and which are rotting our nation from within. Great article James!!!
Those men may not be able to have traditional penetrative sex, but they are still physically stronger than women and can inflict considerable harm. A man is more than a penis.
I have no problem with Anne Widdecombe's position. If there are fully transitioned men who have lived much of their lives as women I think they may be better placed in women's prisons - considered on a case by case basis. As for pronouns - do we have to be drawn into this nonsense?
I’m assuming that you are male and have absolutely no understanding of the way that women live our lives, constantly scanning our environment for males that we don’t know ‘just in case’. It’s a reflex born of thousands of years of male violence against us. How about separate units are created for deluded men rather than expecting vulnerable women to have to live enclosed lives in a state of fear in order to keep men happy and comfortable? How about women are taken into consideration instead of men deciding what’s good for us and what we should put up with? How about we are f***ing asked what we want for a change? And how about the female prison guards are kept safe instead of having to deal with men who are far more powerful than them?
Yes we do. What a pity there is no opportunity on here to down tick. Read TT's response below if you want common sense and a view, which I venture to suggest, is held by most women.
Why should it be so complicated ? Whichever prison their put in whether it be a male or female prison, just put them in a separate wing away from all other prisoners, just like they do with sex offenders.
Absolutely right. I am a Refotm member and have been going out campaigning for them. This has really shaken me. I am a woman to whom this issue is fundamental. It suddenly became completely clear to me that Reform has taken zero interest in this huge issue and I suspect they view it as being a fringe issue. It isn’t. It affects all women. Or is that one of the reasons they don’t really care. ‘Only’ women. I’m furious about this.
Reform does not need mixed messaging wobbles like this. Leaves open goal as you say. Woman = adult human female. Anything else is a deviant pretence - a freak that inhabits the uncanny valley. It doesn't matter how long a biological male has been wearing a frock, or what they did to their tackle. Just don't feed the delusion at the personal, or societal level. Anyone who encourages this nonsense needs to be sacked. Reform need to get their act together...
Yes, you are absolutely right. A castrato wearing a frock does not magically become a woman. Trans people are simply denying chromosonal reality and are in the same category as those who think they are werewolves or vampires and act out their fantasies. Loonies are loonies but what is more worrying is that a supposedly sane PM of a country can appear on LBC radio and agree that 'a woman can have a penis ".The NHS 111 service now warns users to enter their biological sex rather than the sex they identify with. As with Lysenkoism in the Soviet Union or Nazi race theory ignoring biological facts can only have disastrous consequences
Well said James. Farage’s comments were surprising and disappointing not just because of the trans issue, but because Farage showed that he too (like uniparty leaders) can waiver rather than lead on what is RIGHT. I hope Reform UK follow your advice… ASAP. I want our leaders to do the right thing, even when it isn’t popular. Farage’s rise to popularity has grown on the back of him being ahead of the curve on immigration… he must build on that approach in other policy areas too.
I'm sick to the back teeth of hearing how dangerous it is for trans identifying men to use male facilities.
NOT WOMEN"S PROBLEM
TW have chosen the lifestyle, they must deal with the consequences. If they can't deal with the consequences, go back to wearing masculine clothes and stop using make-up. Simple.
I think that this again identifies a weakness in Reform. Yes, we need a radical change to the whole way we run the country, but Farage seems inconsistent when trying to position himself as the next PM. It gives me the impression that his personal goal overrides what the country wants and needs!
There's also the point that men, even men who are confused as to which sex they belong to should be safe in men's prisons. Even if they have to remain on a different, segregated wing.
The solution isn't to put trans identified men in women's prisons, sacrificing their safety and decency. The priority is to ensure that women are safe in women only prisons. Men (including trans identified men) should be safe in men's prisons.
Segregated prisons exist for men and women for a reason. It is something that we learned a long time ago. Like on many subjects, this is a hysteria of recent history. We just seem to have forgotten those common sense principles over the last 25-30 years.
Precisely. Effeminate male homosexuals are obviously at more risk in mens' prisons, but no one has ever suggested putting them in women's prisons because of their effeminate, more female, nature. If trans people claim they have been "born in the wrong body" then they themselves must be able to ascertain whether they have a male body or a female body otherwise they would not know they were in the wrong body. Male body means men's prison, female body womens prison. People make false claims about themselves all the time. A transwoman can see that he has a male body as can everyone else.
Follow Trump’s lead on this. Only two genders. Repeal any previous acts that conflict with two genders.
Hear, hear James, agree with every word. As someone who has been fighting gender ideology for years, I’m sick to the back teeth of women being expected to ‘be kind’, to put themselves second to entitled, demanding men. It’s not our job to act as human shields to protect deluded men. Men need to budge up and find a suitable safe space for them. Most of the women in prison have already been abused and intimidated by men. I can’t imagine the terror that they must feel when confronted in a space that they can’t escape from, with someone who is deluded enough to think they can change sex and that everyone else has to comply with the delusion. No a thousand times no! And no decent man would want to impose on women in that way so by the very nature of their demands, they are not decent.
Well said TT. !
It’s an absolutely bizarre response from Reform to one of the easiest questions in politics. Should men who say they’re women be in women’s prisons? It should be as straightforward to answer as “Should babies be allowed to drive cars?” Of course not.
But such is the institutional derangement and moral cowardice surrounding gender ideology that even Reform can’t bring itself to state the obvious without caveats and “case-by-case” waffle.
What are they thinking? Who exactly are they afraid of upsetting? The Guardian?
Here’s the formula: every time you equivocate on basic truths, you risk losing the very people who turned to you because the mainstream parties lost their minds. Learn it and get a grip.
A very important comment. I too am wavering on my supprt for Reform and feeling a sense of hopelessness as they felt like our only route out of this mess and away from the present bunch of effetes in the uni party. Where now? I hold on to a small measure of hope since joining the New Culture Forum and encourage others to support them. Matt occasionally pops up in their intelligent, informed and sane discussions. Worth a fiver a month of anyone's money!
Never arrived on my radar before now. Thanks, will follow on X then.
Thanks – yes, I see New Culture Forum pop up on my Twitter a lot. Will consider subscribing.
It's worth doing. They hold enjoyable conferences and have started a literary festival and you can join local NCF groups to meet and talk to like-minded people.
Yes, yes, yes!!! This is the hill I would die on and James’ comments are music to my ears! Common sense, reality based and sweeping aside all the nonsense that has haunted women for years. I cannot think of any good reason why Reform would not adopt this immediately.
Their messaging on various topics appears inconsistent, which doesn’t need to be the case. This inconsistency only serves to fuel opposition claims of disorganisation and lack of seriousness. A clear, detailed, and firm policy platform is crucial to avoid ambiguity and damage limitation videos being hastily issued the following day. This is especially important in light of a contentious issue like this.
Brilliant summary and great guest essay by James Esses! It's a real powerful addition to the MG substack.
I think that list of damage is telling. And all facilitated by people who said that all they asked of us was to 'be kind' and 'be respectful' of people. Look at all the unintended (?!) consequences:
***
- The children who have been left sterilised and mutilated by experimental puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.
- The schools teaching our children they may have been born in the wrong body.
- The sub-standard male athletes who have infiltrated women’s sports and athletics.
- The deviant men who have sought to gain access to women’s toilets, hospital wards and refuges.
- The men and women who have lost their jobs and livelihoods for daring to express biological reality.
- And the ‘non-crime hate incidents’ that have been recorded against people who have stood up against the compelled speech of ‘preferred pronouns’
***
It reminds me a bit of the Online Safety Act. All Peter Kyle is asking is for us to 'protect children'.
Except....that's not really what it is about....is it Peter! It's about control.
It's the thin end of the wedge. The slippery slope.
We need to start listening to the people who warned us about it years ago. Not the people who tried to manipulate us into 'being kind'.
Untramelled kindness so often proves to be a one-way street.
I was absolutely appalled at Widdicome's article. She used she and her to describe men. She actually said these men pose no risk because "they no longer wish to have sex with women". Reform are now worse than Labour on this. I am shocked that this is their position and it is a vote-loser for me. However I also am not surprised seeing as Farage said a few weeks back that a Welshman is anyone who has lived in Wales for 5-6 years. They are not a party capable of confronting the polite fictions that go against biological reality and which are rotting our nation from within. Great article James!!!
Those men may not be able to have traditional penetrative sex, but they are still physically stronger than women and can inflict considerable harm. A man is more than a penis.
"A man is more than a penis"
Or less, in some cases!
I have no problem with Anne Widdecombe's position. If there are fully transitioned men who have lived much of their lives as women I think they may be better placed in women's prisons - considered on a case by case basis. As for pronouns - do we have to be drawn into this nonsense?
I’m assuming that you are male and have absolutely no understanding of the way that women live our lives, constantly scanning our environment for males that we don’t know ‘just in case’. It’s a reflex born of thousands of years of male violence against us. How about separate units are created for deluded men rather than expecting vulnerable women to have to live enclosed lives in a state of fear in order to keep men happy and comfortable? How about women are taken into consideration instead of men deciding what’s good for us and what we should put up with? How about we are f***ing asked what we want for a change? And how about the female prison guards are kept safe instead of having to deal with men who are far more powerful than them?
Yes we do. What a pity there is no opportunity on here to down tick. Read TT's response below if you want common sense and a view, which I venture to suggest, is held by most women.
Thanks!! I can’t tell you how furious I am at some of the male responses on here and I’m sure you feel the same. Clueless doesn’t come close.
They should take their lead from JK Rowling and apply common sense! My faith and patience with Reform is beginning to wear thin.
I bit my tongue and swallowed the Rupert Lowe cock up and the tonning down of the immigration rhetoric but am beginning to slightly despair.
Why should it be so complicated ? Whichever prison their put in whether it be a male or female prison, just put them in a separate wing away from all other prisoners, just like they do with sex offenders.
A lot of these guys are in fact sex offenders.
The ability of Reform to score own goals is amazing.
Reform are a classic example of Slopulism and they will not be enough to save our civilisation.
We need to prepare and organise for what comes after, when they let us down in government.
They are useless
Absolutely right. I am a Refotm member and have been going out campaigning for them. This has really shaken me. I am a woman to whom this issue is fundamental. It suddenly became completely clear to me that Reform has taken zero interest in this huge issue and I suspect they view it as being a fringe issue. It isn’t. It affects all women. Or is that one of the reasons they don’t really care. ‘Only’ women. I’m furious about this.
Reform does not need mixed messaging wobbles like this. Leaves open goal as you say. Woman = adult human female. Anything else is a deviant pretence - a freak that inhabits the uncanny valley. It doesn't matter how long a biological male has been wearing a frock, or what they did to their tackle. Just don't feed the delusion at the personal, or societal level. Anyone who encourages this nonsense needs to be sacked. Reform need to get their act together...
Yes, you are absolutely right. A castrato wearing a frock does not magically become a woman. Trans people are simply denying chromosonal reality and are in the same category as those who think they are werewolves or vampires and act out their fantasies. Loonies are loonies but what is more worrying is that a supposedly sane PM of a country can appear on LBC radio and agree that 'a woman can have a penis ".The NHS 111 service now warns users to enter their biological sex rather than the sex they identify with. As with Lysenkoism in the Soviet Union or Nazi race theory ignoring biological facts can only have disastrous consequences
Well said James. Farage’s comments were surprising and disappointing not just because of the trans issue, but because Farage showed that he too (like uniparty leaders) can waiver rather than lead on what is RIGHT. I hope Reform UK follow your advice… ASAP. I want our leaders to do the right thing, even when it isn’t popular. Farage’s rise to popularity has grown on the back of him being ahead of the curve on immigration… he must build on that approach in other policy areas too.
I think you are ignoring the fact that Farrage was put on the spot and had to find a compromise. Maybe he - or somebody near him - made a bad choice.
I hope you are right
I'm sick to the back teeth of hearing how dangerous it is for trans identifying men to use male facilities.
NOT WOMEN"S PROBLEM
TW have chosen the lifestyle, they must deal with the consequences. If they can't deal with the consequences, go back to wearing masculine clothes and stop using make-up. Simple.
Good point!
The world would be a very strange place if all real life issues could be dismissed as flippantly as you suggest.
Or even try to stay out of prison.
I think that this again identifies a weakness in Reform. Yes, we need a radical change to the whole way we run the country, but Farage seems inconsistent when trying to position himself as the next PM. It gives me the impression that his personal goal overrides what the country wants and needs!
That seems to be the crux of the issue.
There's also the point that men, even men who are confused as to which sex they belong to should be safe in men's prisons. Even if they have to remain on a different, segregated wing.
The solution isn't to put trans identified men in women's prisons, sacrificing their safety and decency. The priority is to ensure that women are safe in women only prisons. Men (including trans identified men) should be safe in men's prisons.
Segregated prisons exist for men and women for a reason. It is something that we learned a long time ago. Like on many subjects, this is a hysteria of recent history. We just seem to have forgotten those common sense principles over the last 25-30 years.
Now remind me....what happened 28 years ago....
Precisely. Effeminate male homosexuals are obviously at more risk in mens' prisons, but no one has ever suggested putting them in women's prisons because of their effeminate, more female, nature. If trans people claim they have been "born in the wrong body" then they themselves must be able to ascertain whether they have a male body or a female body otherwise they would not know they were in the wrong body. Male body means men's prison, female body womens prison. People make false claims about themselves all the time. A transwoman can see that he has a male body as can everyone else.