Unfortunately this is wishful thinking. Burnham will have a honey moon period and most likely win the next election even if he does not call an early one. The Right are too stupid to organise themselves properly like the Left and are hopelessly divided
Spot on Harambe. Nigel, Matt and Zia are good at telling us what's wrong with Britain (as if we don't already know) but in 4 by-elections so far this year so far Reform has failed miserably to win any because they couldn't organise the proverbial in a pub, never mind a proper media campaign.
It's simply down to getting vital messages across to every home in each constituency. NB The Greens (THE GREENS!) outwitted Matt Goodwin in Gorton and Denton.
Here's a clue, simple maths, there were 74,306 voters in G&D. Matt thought he could speak to them all by knocking on doors. Let's say you walk around the streets door knocking and manage to speak to a dozen people every hour, for 8 hours a day (optimistic) That's 96 people a day. To speak with 74,000 people that would take 770 days, or just over 2 years. But let's say you can find 100 'competent' Reform activists to help (unlikely) it's still going to take two and a half months. Door knocking is a rubbish 'strategy', it's not a strategy at all, it's just virtue signalling 'look I'm doing something'.
I wish I didn't agree with you, as being on the Right myself I'm automatically roped into the "too stupid" and "hopelessly divided" crowd! There are just massive issues in Western Civilization, all the way up to what is hypothetically "the top". How many MPs, say in the Conservatives, have read Hazony's "Conservatism" and tried to take on board that they have forgotten what it (conservatism) means? (Which is why so many accuse them of effectively being "Lib Dems" - they don't even understand why that is the case, philosophically and historically and psychologically. Conservatism is a modified alternative to democratic liberalism, not the realization of it, in all its self-centred "glory" - "self realization" and "individualism" rather than recognition of relationships and responsibilities.) How many of them have read Andrew Doyle's "The End of Woke" and understand properly what they're up against, instead of having some vague concept in their heads that there "was" a "culture war" that is "going away"? How many of them try and understand the implications of Islamism, as the unpleasant and too-loud voice of what is surely an Islamic minority, rather than running away from even mentioning it in public? (Apart from this, has Burnham even said anything about immigration or remigration, or is he too drunk on his apparently undeserved adulation and his unmandated hubristic "plans" for having "ten years to fix Britain"?) The problems are deep and involve plenty of education about fundamental thinking, not just more virtue-signalling and more of the descendants of cancel culture and being afraid to say things that matter. I don't know, I just don't know where we're going. Especially if there is no general election for three years. Perhaps we can only hope that Burnham's overconfidence leads him to believe that an early election will give him a mandate - and that that early election doesn't then just lead to some kind of appalling left-coalition victory that definitely sends us down the drain.
So why did Reform have such a pathetic campaign in Makerfield? Some say Nigel wanted Burnham to win so a general election might come sooner. I don't agree but many think so.
That vote was purely to get rid of Starmer. Yes, I think Nigel ran a deliberately weak candidate as he knew how bad a Burnham government will be.
I also genuinely believe looking at Burnham's body language he didn't want to win it - he knows he will be a huge failure - with a good chance of beating Lizz Truss' record of shortest PM in history.
Millions of our own people who live in post industrial wastelands on Welfare will stick with Labour if they think the Right will take it away from them.
We have to have a positive message for post Industrial wastelands.
This country needs CHANGE, not in a year, not in 3 years, right NOW. I fear the worst, I really do....at present all I see is future misery ...and despair at not being able to change a damned thing 😡
This may seem like a stupid question, but it needs asking because the answer is not obvious. What is the end game here?
What do the left wing liberals, who are systematically flooding our nation with migrants from countries, that have nothing in common with either our values, or ways of life, wish to gain by doing this?
Don’t these people have families of their own? Don’t they have children that they want to grow up in the country of their ancestors? Or are they ashamed of it and seeking to erase it from the pages of history?
I really need to understand what is going on in the longterm in this country, surely these people cannot wish to see this country disappear under a wave of migrant tribes?
We're not allowed to say it, but if it looks like the Great Replacement and quacks like the Great Replacement, then it's probably the Great Replacement.
This is an excellent question which is difficult to answer. I believe the only answer is they are warped by anti-western ideology and will not allow themselves to draw the obvious conclusions to continuing to allow immigration at this scale - as those conclusions are 'racist'.
Their minds are lost in a bizarre Utopian fantasy in which virtuous enlightened Elites save the world. They don’t recognize that their actions are instead creating an authoritarian nightmare in which dissent and dialogue are suppressed. They actually despise their own heritage and anyone who favors it.
“How to Destroy Britain From Within.” That’s the manual. So the Brave New World can be created in its place. To do that, you must first destroy the idea of the British people. They’ve been working on that for decades.
Do your research Matt, it's not just Labour's plan. I confronted my (Tory) MP in 2019 with the details of the multibillion deals between the Tory government and UK property developers to build BRAND NEW housing for 'asylum seekers'. This should have been in those non-existent Reform by-election newspapers: you have the power to inform the public, not just the online echo chamber:
Absolutely correct. Blair, the Tories and now accelerated by Labour. It's that miracle of cheap labour to swell the coffers of the rich and the elitist British people who don't want the dirty jobs. Like it or not, but places like Saudi Arabia manage this much better, with minimal rights for the cheap labour. Maybe we need to think again.
This is all so obvious you would have to be really naive to not see what is happening
Another point is I have not met a single person that has voted for labour surely an investigation into how they are getting into power should be instigated to me it stinks of corruption
It's the same Communist model in all western countries from Australia to Canada, Ireland to Germany. The only mystery is why people are slow waking up to it.
There is no case for more immigration as those that are here (far too many) have not yet been assimilated: most of them never will as they are so ghettoised. As an (ex) lifelong Conservative voter (I voted Reform in the GE) I believe that the only way to reverse this otherwise irreversible problem is voting Reform. All illegal immigrants who have passed through a safe country should be ineligible for asylum - the clue is in the word 'illegal' yet we continue to take them and give them welfare priority: complete madness, we are on the way to losing our country.
Voters in the UK have consistently voted to bring down immigration, the Labour Party manifesto in 2024 said they would bring down immigration, that was their promise to the people if elected.
Now their policy is to significantly increase immigration giving priority to alien cultures.
These people will never work in the UK , many don't speak English, or have any skills.
This is not what they were elected for it's a complete lie, a false hood, this must be illegal.
The validity of their election needs to be challenged in the courts, and a General Election held.
We are getting pay cuts in the private medical sector and paying ever more taxes to cover paying for the third world to satisfy the left white guilt. Defence destroyed , law and order deteriorating , education maliciously manipulated , it is all infuriating the only answer I can see is a general strike of the wealth creators and hard workers who are paying for this want on destruction of Great Britain. Whilst I am at it where is the pay cuts and pension reductions for the 30 years of failing MPs
The small boats problem can be easily be solved by letting anyone in who wants to come to the U.K.
Make the vetting process non existent but pretend that it is tough!
The con of so called Net Zero Immigration is this: Encourage white British to leave due ever higher taxes while encouraging those from the third world to come here by making legal routes easier. It is a tactic which will destroy the U.K. within the next 25/50 years.
You are generally correct Harambe in what you say but the latest sleight of hand Government immigration proposals and a Burnham back to the 1970's socialist utopian administration will mean a the destruction will occur within the next 5/10 years not 25/50.
We oldies are the lucky ones as we have unquenchable memories of the real England but the younger generations will have only reminiscences left behind by those who knew the truth.
I don't know why this isn't being publicised more widely. Oh wait, I think I do. A small village with brand new build housing designated as social housing is going to be filled with 80 odd asylum seekers or should I say illegal migrants. Anyone on the waiting list can get stuffed. The Spectator published Home Office statistics stating that only 20% of asylum seekers are actually in work 8 years after asylum is granted. So come here, get a free house and never have to work again in your entire life.
Cultural vandalism with zero up front agreement from the British public.
This wasn't in any manifesto. Such drastic measures should be subject to a referendum to give them legitimacy. Or a general election, but I can't see Labour throwing away their majority.
The only thing that could kibosh it would be an economic crash.
Only people who hate this country, its culture, its people would propose such a thing.
Suicidal empathy and an inversion of priorities from the natural order of self / family / community / country to an unnatural prioritisation of 'the world' and in particular 'the global south' above all else.
"Down with us" seems to be the new mantra. Suicidal empathy as Gad Saad has said and you have elaborated on.
Marxism and critical theory in action. We were never asked.
The standout stories in the Daily Telegraph this week. Discrimination against white children accessing university and preference to funding being given to ethnic minority’s not white working class, brand new £250,000 brand new houses being given to 83 migrants, we are sliding down the scale of prosperity as individuals and a country , rape, murder , pillage by migrants here and across Europe .
Meanwhile we have a man who isn’t prime minister yet setting out his plans not to Parliament , but to a gathering of friends in Manchester . Starmer wouldn’t answer questions, Burnham doesn’t allow them to be asked . Migrants being ferried into Dover filmed singing England is finished, and Khan has taken London .
And against this backdrop Labour are telling us everything is getting better and opening the floodgates to more immigration and taxes . Meanwhile Burnham thinks the answer is to move number 10 to Manchester so his wife doesn’t have to move house and devolve everything so nobody can pin anything on him ! 😱😱😱😱😱😳🥵🤦♀️
Burnham will not last. He is already a disaster and he's not even in office yet. This has never happened in British history.
Unfortunately this is wishful thinking. Burnham will have a honey moon period and most likely win the next election even if he does not call an early one. The Right are too stupid to organise themselves properly like the Left and are hopelessly divided
He will not have any honeymoon period.
Do you know the state of our financial situation in Britain? He will be facing a Lizz Truss moment very soon.
Liz Truss’s basic ideas (low tax & growth) were good. It’s just her timing & foolishness in ignoring the bond markets was almost beyond belief.
Spot on Harambe. Nigel, Matt and Zia are good at telling us what's wrong with Britain (as if we don't already know) but in 4 by-elections so far this year so far Reform has failed miserably to win any because they couldn't organise the proverbial in a pub, never mind a proper media campaign.
It's simply down to getting vital messages across to every home in each constituency. NB The Greens (THE GREENS!) outwitted Matt Goodwin in Gorton and Denton.
Here's a clue, simple maths, there were 74,306 voters in G&D. Matt thought he could speak to them all by knocking on doors. Let's say you walk around the streets door knocking and manage to speak to a dozen people every hour, for 8 hours a day (optimistic) That's 96 people a day. To speak with 74,000 people that would take 770 days, or just over 2 years. But let's say you can find 100 'competent' Reform activists to help (unlikely) it's still going to take two and a half months. Door knocking is a rubbish 'strategy', it's not a strategy at all, it's just virtue signalling 'look I'm doing something'.
You all know what I think should be done.
I wish I didn't agree with you, as being on the Right myself I'm automatically roped into the "too stupid" and "hopelessly divided" crowd! There are just massive issues in Western Civilization, all the way up to what is hypothetically "the top". How many MPs, say in the Conservatives, have read Hazony's "Conservatism" and tried to take on board that they have forgotten what it (conservatism) means? (Which is why so many accuse them of effectively being "Lib Dems" - they don't even understand why that is the case, philosophically and historically and psychologically. Conservatism is a modified alternative to democratic liberalism, not the realization of it, in all its self-centred "glory" - "self realization" and "individualism" rather than recognition of relationships and responsibilities.) How many of them have read Andrew Doyle's "The End of Woke" and understand properly what they're up against, instead of having some vague concept in their heads that there "was" a "culture war" that is "going away"? How many of them try and understand the implications of Islamism, as the unpleasant and too-loud voice of what is surely an Islamic minority, rather than running away from even mentioning it in public? (Apart from this, has Burnham even said anything about immigration or remigration, or is he too drunk on his apparently undeserved adulation and his unmandated hubristic "plans" for having "ten years to fix Britain"?) The problems are deep and involve plenty of education about fundamental thinking, not just more virtue-signalling and more of the descendants of cancel culture and being afraid to say things that matter. I don't know, I just don't know where we're going. Especially if there is no general election for three years. Perhaps we can only hope that Burnham's overconfidence leads him to believe that an early election will give him a mandate - and that that early election doesn't then just lead to some kind of appalling left-coalition victory that definitely sends us down the drain.
The Right don't have a positive message for post industrial wastelands just we will take their benefits away from them and their families.
So why did Reform have such a pathetic campaign in Makerfield? Some say Nigel wanted Burnham to win so a general election might come sooner. I don't agree but many think so.
That vote was purely to get rid of Starmer. Yes, I think Nigel ran a deliberately weak candidate as he knew how bad a Burnham government will be.
I also genuinely believe looking at Burnham's body language he didn't want to win it - he knows he will be a huge failure - with a good chance of beating Lizz Truss' record of shortest PM in history.
Millions of our own people who live in post industrial wastelands on Welfare will stick with Labour if they think the Right will take it away from them.
We have to have a positive message for post Industrial wastelands.
That's a piece of cake!
So more rapes, tortures, murders etc etc! GENERAL ELECTION NOW!!!🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
This country needs CHANGE, not in a year, not in 3 years, right NOW. I fear the worst, I really do....at present all I see is future misery ...and despair at not being able to change a damned thing 😡
This may seem like a stupid question, but it needs asking because the answer is not obvious. What is the end game here?
What do the left wing liberals, who are systematically flooding our nation with migrants from countries, that have nothing in common with either our values, or ways of life, wish to gain by doing this?
Don’t these people have families of their own? Don’t they have children that they want to grow up in the country of their ancestors? Or are they ashamed of it and seeking to erase it from the pages of history?
I really need to understand what is going on in the longterm in this country, surely these people cannot wish to see this country disappear under a wave of migrant tribes?
We're not allowed to say it, but if it looks like the Great Replacement and quacks like the Great Replacement, then it's probably the Great Replacement.
This is an excellent question which is difficult to answer. I believe the only answer is they are warped by anti-western ideology and will not allow themselves to draw the obvious conclusions to continuing to allow immigration at this scale - as those conclusions are 'racist'.
Their minds are lost in a bizarre Utopian fantasy in which virtuous enlightened Elites save the world. They don’t recognize that their actions are instead creating an authoritarian nightmare in which dissent and dialogue are suppressed. They actually despise their own heritage and anyone who favors it.
“How to Destroy Britain From Within.” That’s the manual. So the Brave New World can be created in its place. To do that, you must first destroy the idea of the British people. They’ve been working on that for decades.
Do your research Matt, it's not just Labour's plan. I confronted my (Tory) MP in 2019 with the details of the multibillion deals between the Tory government and UK property developers to build BRAND NEW housing for 'asylum seekers'. This should have been in those non-existent Reform by-election newspapers: you have the power to inform the public, not just the online echo chamber:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-asylum-accommodation-contracts-awarded#:~:text=The%20new%20contracts%20offer%20a,individuals%20through%20the%20asylum%20system.
Absolutely correct. Blair, the Tories and now accelerated by Labour. It's that miracle of cheap labour to swell the coffers of the rich and the elitist British people who don't want the dirty jobs. Like it or not, but places like Saudi Arabia manage this much better, with minimal rights for the cheap labour. Maybe we need to think again.
This is all so obvious you would have to be really naive to not see what is happening
Another point is I have not met a single person that has voted for labour surely an investigation into how they are getting into power should be instigated to me it stinks of corruption
They are importing voters.
It's the same Communist model in all western countries from Australia to Canada, Ireland to Germany. The only mystery is why people are slow waking up to it.
Eva Vlaard nails it here;
https://youtu.be/vw5NEqPe-U4?si=wp9acZX4d5rhum27
They think they are, then along came gullible Dave (oops, Zack) and the parasite shifted home.
There is no case for more immigration as those that are here (far too many) have not yet been assimilated: most of them never will as they are so ghettoised. As an (ex) lifelong Conservative voter (I voted Reform in the GE) I believe that the only way to reverse this otherwise irreversible problem is voting Reform. All illegal immigrants who have passed through a safe country should be ineligible for asylum - the clue is in the word 'illegal' yet we continue to take them and give them welfare priority: complete madness, we are on the way to losing our country.
Voters in the UK have consistently voted to bring down immigration, the Labour Party manifesto in 2024 said they would bring down immigration, that was their promise to the people if elected.
Now their policy is to significantly increase immigration giving priority to alien cultures.
These people will never work in the UK , many don't speak English, or have any skills.
This is not what they were elected for it's a complete lie, a false hood, this must be illegal.
The validity of their election needs to be challenged in the courts, and a General Election held.
We are getting pay cuts in the private medical sector and paying ever more taxes to cover paying for the third world to satisfy the left white guilt. Defence destroyed , law and order deteriorating , education maliciously manipulated , it is all infuriating the only answer I can see is a general strike of the wealth creators and hard workers who are paying for this want on destruction of Great Britain. Whilst I am at it where is the pay cuts and pension reductions for the 30 years of failing MPs
It’s literally frightening!
The small boats problem can be easily be solved by letting anyone in who wants to come to the U.K.
Make the vetting process non existent but pretend that it is tough!
The con of so called Net Zero Immigration is this: Encourage white British to leave due ever higher taxes while encouraging those from the third world to come here by making legal routes easier. It is a tactic which will destroy the U.K. within the next 25/50 years.
You are generally correct Harambe in what you say but the latest sleight of hand Government immigration proposals and a Burnham back to the 1970's socialist utopian administration will mean a the destruction will occur within the next 5/10 years not 25/50.
We oldies are the lucky ones as we have unquenchable memories of the real England but the younger generations will have only reminiscences left behind by those who knew the truth.
I don't know why this isn't being publicised more widely. Oh wait, I think I do. A small village with brand new build housing designated as social housing is going to be filled with 80 odd asylum seekers or should I say illegal migrants. Anyone on the waiting list can get stuffed. The Spectator published Home Office statistics stating that only 20% of asylum seekers are actually in work 8 years after asylum is granted. So come here, get a free house and never have to work again in your entire life.
Cultural vandalism with zero up front agreement from the British public.
This wasn't in any manifesto. Such drastic measures should be subject to a referendum to give them legitimacy. Or a general election, but I can't see Labour throwing away their majority.
The only thing that could kibosh it would be an economic crash.
Only people who hate this country, its culture, its people would propose such a thing.
Suicidal empathy and an inversion of priorities from the natural order of self / family / community / country to an unnatural prioritisation of 'the world' and in particular 'the global south' above all else.
"Down with us" seems to be the new mantra. Suicidal empathy as Gad Saad has said and you have elaborated on.
Marxism and critical theory in action. We were never asked.
The standout stories in the Daily Telegraph this week. Discrimination against white children accessing university and preference to funding being given to ethnic minority’s not white working class, brand new £250,000 brand new houses being given to 83 migrants, we are sliding down the scale of prosperity as individuals and a country , rape, murder , pillage by migrants here and across Europe .
Meanwhile we have a man who isn’t prime minister yet setting out his plans not to Parliament , but to a gathering of friends in Manchester . Starmer wouldn’t answer questions, Burnham doesn’t allow them to be asked . Migrants being ferried into Dover filmed singing England is finished, and Khan has taken London .
And against this backdrop Labour are telling us everything is getting better and opening the floodgates to more immigration and taxes . Meanwhile Burnham thinks the answer is to move number 10 to Manchester so his wife doesn’t have to move house and devolve everything so nobody can pin anything on him ! 😱😱😱😱😱😳🥵🤦♀️
I really do feel sick watching what’s happening in real time to our country.
Thanks again Matt ! Utterly beyond comprehension !! Especially the gaslighting !