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Nigel Liggett's avatar

The Rwanda plan was actually working. When it was introduced hundreds and hundreds of illegal migrants left the UK and travelled to Ireland, with the result that the exasperated Irish Government in Dublin lobbied the UK Government to cancel the Rwanda scheme. Dublin was being overwhelmed. The Labour Government scrapped the scheme at the cost of hundreds of millions solely because it was a Tory scheme.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

America talking of using the build we financed in Rwanda. They already sent someone. Germany and Denmark looking at same. It’ll end up being a hub used by all for migration resolutions while UK remains overcrowded and inefficient as illegals continue, as well be the only place with no exporting of illegals!

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badger's avatar

The Rwanda scam didn't work. We got to the point that for a brief period, illegal migrants feared that it might work. They would soon have realised that it was a paper tiger.

The Tories stayed in the ECHR and kept the Equalities and Human Rights Acts, knowing that these would allow them to trot out the old excuse "we tried but European law, human rights, etc. stopped us". They even funded "charities" bringing legal cases against the scheme.

The purpose of the Rwanda Scam was to avoid taking meaningful action against the boats for years, while distracting public attention from the Boriswave.

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Nigel Liggett's avatar

Tell that to the Irish Government

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badger's avatar

The Irish government is playing the same cynical game as ours, flooding their country with legal and illegal migrants without democratic consent. It suits them to have a confected row with the hated Brits, blaming us for an increase when in truth they have been welcoming these young men just as eagerly as the UK government.

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The Martyr's avatar

At least we’ll know where they are so deporting them will be easy. We really need Reform to say we will look at everyone who entered this country illegally with a view to deporting them if they haven’t assimilated, work legally and pay tax.

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Lesley Snell's avatar

They will probably sub let and cram in another 20 illegals the authorities don’t know about

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Penelope Beck's avatar

The point is that the majority of them will be low or unskilled and therefore will take more from the system than they contribute and that will lower the per capita GDP of the country ie the country will be poorer. We have to be able to CHOOSE who comes to our country. This Labour government is a disaster!

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Steve's avatar

They already have. Reform announced they would set up a Department of Deportations. All illegals will be deported. Read Nigel's Daily Mail Article. Zia Yusuf wrote in a Facebook post that this does apply to those already here. Hopefully that will reassure those who doubt Reform have a plan.

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Jillian Stirling's avatar

How will that reassure people? All illegals should be deported no matter how long they have been in the UK.

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Steve's avatar

Because a lot of people have been claiming that Reform do not have a deportation policy or that Reform will not deport illegals already here. That's not the case.

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George Carmody's avatar

I'm afraid that has been precisely the case. Farage made it explicitly clear in his interview with Steven Edginton that he would not deport the 1.2 million illegals already here.

This latest announcement represents a U-turn. Let's see if it is actually implemented. After all, in January, Farage promised an independent inquiry into the rape gangs. But then cancelled that policy. Let's hope he doesn't do the same with this announcement. Wisest to wait and see, and hold Reform's feet to the fire, before celebrating.

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The Martyr's avatar

I must have missed this and predictably it’s not been mentioned in the MSM as it’s a popular policy. Strange that Matt hasn’t majored on it.

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The Martyr's avatar

That’s perfectly clear and very welcome as a policy. An about turn for Nigel but a sensible one. No more messing about, this needs to be done.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

Apparently there a.ready a Deportation officer in Home Office, so unless Reform get down to checking laws, reverse culture of doing nothing, plan to get round ECHR or leave this organ, …. So if and when win they can go in and start the next day.

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Steve's avatar

Reform have addressed this. They will leave the ECHR and legislate to remove any blocking laws and ensure that no international treaty can prevent them from deporting illegals.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

Farage said such some years ago then in 2024 he started saying, to nullify expectations of him, he would have a Referendum on leaving ECHR. He might be saying again leave ECHR but he has shown a reticence lately to be that brave and committed. Same as with deporting, he said last year it not possible to do, but now he saying the word again and before audience listen to rest of sentence they cheering and drown out hesitation …!

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Steve's avatar

If you can point me at a better alternative party that's polling higher than Labour and the Tories and is standing in more seats than them, then that'd be great.

Reform are not perfect. Farage is not perfect, but they are at least heading in the right direction, while all the other main parties are heading in the wrong direction, and the smaller parties are going nowhere as they are not standing enough candidates and not getting enough votes.

You can't do anything to address the massive problems in this country unless you win power. Currently there's only one party that can even hope to do that.

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Bea's avatar

You are of course spot on. Winning and having the power to change laws must be the objective. Ironically, I was studying politics when Blair’s mantra was to make sure that they said/promised all the “right” things to gain power. They gained power and quietly brought in all the new human rights laws that are now causing such a headache. (replying to Steve)

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Tracy Hill's avatar

And contribute more than they take out, even when working vs the cost of the schooling and healthcare and everything else.

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badger's avatar

What happens when most or all of them are granted asylum and given legal status to remain here indefinitely?

Boris was in favour of an amnesty. Nigel said in the Edginton interview that deportations were not even his ambition - which means a de facto amnesty. Now he is talking tough but what does he actually believe or intend?

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The Martyr's avatar

If they are granted UK nationality, they work and they pay tax why wouldn’t they remain? I’m no expert on this but I thought most illegals are granted “leave to remain” rather than nationality, which has a finite period before being reviewed. If they’re doing useful work, paying tax and crucially not causing trouble or on a watchlist, again why would we deport them? But if people are here who are causing trouble, are off grid working, aren’t integrating, preach or practice hate, are prisoners, don’t work or contribute to society, then surely they should leave? I welcome the change in policy from Reform.

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badger's avatar

Why? Because they have broken the law to get here and allowing them to stay sends a clear message to the next thousand boatloads. Because the expensive and discriminatory housing scheme Matt describes is for those allowed to stay - the idea that they contribute and pay tax is a far left fantasy, they are a big net cost to the UK. Because they have destroyed their identity documents, may have criminal records and present a danger to people living here.

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The Martyr's avatar

Let me clarify my belief. We should prioritise our own citizens for social housing. Immigrants should be deported if they can’t support themselves including paying for housing. Benefits should not be available for new immigrants until they’ve paid into our system with taxes for at least three years. Everyone arriving illegally should be deported immediately. However I think that people who are here, can support themselves, don’t cause trouble and pay taxes and don’t live off benefits should be allowed to remain.

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badger's avatar

I think we largely agree. My concern is with those who arrive illegally and are granted asylum in a way that makes them technically legal. This is, among other things, unfair to those who come here in a way that respects the spirit and not just the letter of the law, particularly with our two tier legal system.

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The Martyr's avatar

Yes. Today there is no disincentive to crossing the English Channel as the French escort your dinghy for 12 miles then Border Force (an oxymoron if ever) or RNLI escort them the second 12miles. Then they get housing, food, benefits, etc until they decide to work and pay taxes which we know few do. This has to stop and those who have abused our hospitality and entered a life of crime, benefit, off grid working without paying taxes have to be deported. I was delighted to hear Zia Yusuf saying this is now Reform policy. I’ve read some of your posts that you’re sceptical about this claim. I’m less sceptical but more than that I feel who else will say this (maybe the Tories), mean it (not the Tories as they made it worse) and do it (Habib, Homeland, etc mean it but will never get power.) The only chance we have as I see it is Reform as without power words don’t matter. We have to help them win and then hope they sort this bloody mess out.

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Pam Watts's avatar

I see no hope left for this country

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KATHLEEN PIMLETT's avatar

We must fight against feeling like this because it is precisely where they want us to be. Some days anger is the only thing that sustains me until hope returns. In this regard I cannot thank the likes of Matt enough for unrelenting positivity when all else looks bleak. We carry on resisting because there is no alternative for the world our children and grandchildren will inherit.

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Tenaciously Terfin's avatar

Exactly. They want us to be depressed and subdued, cowed by fear into unquestioning compliance. It’s all part of a plan by elites to control the masses and has been for decades…...,and I know that sounds like conspiracy theory but I’m now at the stage where I think that conspiracy theorists are simply people who can see patterns emerging and where things are leading.

Thanks Matt, another superb piece.

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KATHLEEN PIMLETT's avatar

As they say, I'll have to find some more conspiracy theories because all mine have come true :)

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badger's avatar

The purpose of an institution or system is what it does. The purpose of the Home Office, Serco and Border Force is to facilitate and encourage large scale illegal migration of fighting age men. This housing policy is part of that well co-ordinated scheme.

I used to blame the French for not co-operating on illegal migration, despite all the money we were paying them. It is now clear that they are co-operating fully with the UK government, working in close partnership to facilitate the crossings.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

… and if true, it turns out Klaus Schwab and wife been lining their pockets while destroying all around us, via our governments since and including Blair.

No News channel reporting this, and yet WEF has ruled attitudes towards international organs, reported on annually by all channels, media; our [UK] Prime Minister has said he prefers Davos/WEF to Westminster and yet silence from UK media. Why the silence?!

‘Schwab’s resignation marks the end of a 54-year career at the top of the WEF, and follows a previous board investigation into its workplace.’

The WEF’ Klaus Schwab has fallen, he’s been a bad lad! An interim boss appointed but this the post Blair wants,…..! (Remember it thought Bliar is Starms handler for WEF.)

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/apr/24/wef-launches-investigation-into-founder-klaus-schwab#:~:text=Schwab%2C%2087%2C%20is%20said%20to,founded%20the%20WEF%20in%201971.

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Tenaciously Terfin's avatar

Absolute and thanks for the link.

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Tracy Hill's avatar

This is true but it won't stop those with the means leaving. I'm already looking at how I can move to Hungary/Portugal/Iceland/anywhere with low migration. I can't stand to be here anymore. Our major cities have been taken over already and that's with legal immigrants. Bradford, Birmingham, Leicester all over 1/3 Muslim plus all the non-Muslim immigrants. London I see with my own eyes the demographic changing so fast with low-skill, non-English speaking immigrants. Where can we move to? At current rates another 2-3million net coming by the end of this government's term. It's utterly depressing. Maybe it's time to use the ECHR to sue the government over the right to family life. One upside is that Labour will be out at the next election. It's guaranteed. The right can create a coalition to keep them out. For good with any luck. There is nothing to be excited about in this country. Nothing.

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KATHLEEN PIMLETT's avatar

I do understand and sympathise with your view. It was part of the reason I retreated physically years ago to a remote part of the UK. I firmly believe the best way to do something about it is to get a government who can change whatever laws need to be changed to restore our way of life, our peace, our safety and our freedoms. We are still in the realm, at least I am, of wishing into place that government through a vote. If that system is shown to be unable to do that, people will have to decide what other options are they willing to live with. We are very much at a crossroads, I think, and many will be looking to escape because, as you say, the very living here has become intolerable for many.

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Tracy Hill's avatar

I agree we need a government to fix this big given that the Tories, who you'd expect to fix it, did nothing of the sort and completely betrayed us. Especially that rat Johnson. Let's hope Reform get in at the next election because if Labour get another 5 years we are doomed. Meanwhile I look forward to moving to a remote part of the UK in a few years time. Well done for escaping.

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Penelope Beck's avatar

If you become a migrant you are doing the same to another country as is being done here. We need to resist through the ballot box.

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Brucey Boy's avatar

Not necessarily…if a Brit emigrates to a European country they’re moving somewhere that shares broadly similar values and cultural ‘norms’, unlike many of the people coming here who share few (if any) of our values, and know nothing of our cultural heritage!

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Penelope Beck's avatar

But a Brit is likely to be going to be taking up a self supporting job that is contributing to the host country rather than taking out more than they put in also they are not trying to change the customs and mores of that country. So the situation is very different from political Muslims coming to Britain.

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KATHLEEN PIMLETT's avatar

I'd much prefer it if people stayed and stood firm, of course that would be the best outcome but everyone has to make that decision for themselves. I can well understand that some would rather go and perhaps gather their strength to return eventually.

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SUE YORK's avatar

I can be excited by your suggestion that Labour will not be around for much longer. Let's celebrate that.

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David Jory's avatar

No,I am hopeful. There is going to be a horrible period of recovery,but I think enough people already see the problems and are angry enough to want change.

Sadly Professor Betz will be proven correct.

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Tracy Hill's avatar

This is true but what government is going to deport law-abiding non Brits with a visa? Even if immigration is stopped now and reduced to zero the people are already here? The Muslims have already taken over major UK cities and that's problem won't go away. Unless they remove the right to apply for indefinite leave to remain altogether and get rid of anyone whose visa comes to an end naturally we are still in a huge hellish mess that won't be fixed in my lifetime.

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SUE YORK's avatar

Things change. If Russia arrives on our doorstep and we have to fight, all the Muslims will disappear overnight. Fighting for this country is not on their agenda.

Also Tracy, move abroad and have a break from this country. It is making you depressed. European countries are in the same mess as we are. Hungary has bucked the trend on immigration with a cost to them with the EU. Canada is asking for people to go there but it's a very woke government, like ours. Australia is great, immigration controlled. New Zealand safe but very boring and remote. Iceland, why not? You can always come back on a small boat: if you can afford it. Seriously, good luck.

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The Martyr's avatar

Don’t give up. Of course there’s hope! We’re in a far better place now than we were five years ago when Johnson was opening the floodgates and talking about immigration made you a racist. Let’s work to help Reform do well on Thursday - join the party or give them some money Pam, even a fiver, it’ll empower you.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

We need to have a new and a break from the Unioarty vote so we can see how Reform performs as local politicians/councillors; to see how the Reform base function or whether Yusuf keeps being the high handed boss of a company, and how Farage continues as the figurehead, so to speak, of policies and PR. We need to know pre a General Election, and similarly other non uni parties need to know so UK steadier for decision re vote. Public has committed their money, their faith, their politics to Farage and ReformUK in desperation to make UK safe as we see Uni party breaking it, and public deserve to have that honourably returned by the ReformUK party (Reform2025 Companies Register).

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badger's avatar

Not when the government is, quite deliberately, displacing British citizens to make way for illegals. This is no accident, this is policy, this is the deliberate intention not only of Comrade Starmer but also of the previous Tory regime.

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SUE YORK's avatar

There is hope. It can be turned round. It would turn round more quickly if this government and all it's nonsense were dispatched.

So vote Reform and watch the common sense parties unite to stop the rot.

Positivity.

I am Peter Lynch.

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Lesley Snell's avatar

Reading Matts powerful analysis I didn’t feel like giving up hope, I felt a burgeoning urge to “ man the ramparts “ in some way . I hope to God the May 1 elections sweep the board for Reform and give hope to millions of people that they do not have to put up with this ! We are supposed to be a democracy not a population of subjugated serfs !

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Cass's avatar

Yes! Agreed Lesley. That’s the way to look at this. We have to put aside the imperfections and keep our eyes on the only way out of this mess.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

we need to see how Reform performs as local politicians/councillors; to see how the Reform base function or whether Yusuf keeps being the high handed boss of a company, and how Farage continues as the figurehead, so to speak, of policies and PR. We need to know pre General Election. Similarly other non uni parties need to know so UK steadier for decision re vote. Public has committed money, their faith, their politics to Farage/ReformUK in desperation to make UK safe as we see Uni party breaking it, and public deserve to have that honourably returned by the ReformUK party (Reform2025 Companies Register).

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R Smith's avatar

Evidently Starmer and his idiot Cabinet have missed Professor David Betz’s warning about the forthcoming civil war in Britain. Or worse (and far more likely), they just think they know better.

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badger's avatar

I think they understand his warning only too well. Every single policy move they make has the effect of inflaming tensions - welcoming illegals, two tier policing, discrimination in housing and employment, promoting Islam, attacking family farmers.

If you wanted to provoke disorder and violence on the streets, what would you do differently?

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R Smith's avatar

You’re exactly right, it is precisely what you’d do isn’t it? It’ll be interesting to see how they behave when they find themselves on the losing side.

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Gaslighted Boomer's avatar

TikTok is complicit in this scandal. I tried posting the not unreasonable (in my view) suggestion that unused RAF airfields and MoD camps be used to set up tented villages for occupation by illegal immigrants but my comments were immediately removed.

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David Jelley's avatar

You are probably lucky that you didn't get a visit from the police to correct your unacceptable way of thinking.

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Gaslighted Boomer's avatar

I’m waiting for the knock on the door! I’ve joined Toby Young’s Free Speech Union and commend it to all.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

But, but …. the illegals have already dictated such not suitable for their needs and comfort, … and the Tory Govt gave way, …. Thereby for ever more giving the upper hand to illegals. We know the Lab Govt won’t be different, the illegal is the boss.

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Gaslighted Boomer's avatar

Something’s got to give as the present situation is unsustainable. A few months down the line the availability of rented properties will reduce markedly then what does this useless Labour government do?

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Iris February's avatar

Every piece of legislation passed in the last 20 years or so regarding private landlords has been in favour of the tenant and Starmer's government have continued the trend, so many have given up. With many properties being taken out of the game by housing the immigrants there will be little or no choice left for the Brits who are unable to afford to purchase a property.

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G Peel's avatar

Every day my heart sinks a bit lower…. And I don’t know how that is possible given it was in its boots a long time ago.

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GeoffB's avatar

How much worse can it get, preferential treatment for illegal immigrants, surely internment in tented camps in the bleakest parts of the Scottish highlands is the deterrent, as they arrive hand them a spade to dig the latrines. Show them the pile of potatoes that they have to peel and cook in a big pot over an open fire. The allotment areas where they grow their own vegetables, if they do not rgow anything they starve......

Of course the usual do gooders will complain it is against their human rights and the government financed charities will go to the courts to get an injunction aided by Starmer's lefty friends.

OR Instead of picking them up mid channel and landing them in Dover why not take them to an old car ferry moored off shore, when it is full off it goes back to France.

As Kimi Badenoch said to Starmer in parliament last week. Get some Balls

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

Could be luckier than tents, I think some of the huts still there in the scene of Scotland you paint 😆. The huts for the German POWs of WWII. As long as we take preservation ways to the Christian religious painting the POWs did.

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Dr Christine Dewbury's avatar

You hit the nail squarely on the head once again. This government, and the one before, seem to despise the ordinary British citizen - but we are many, they are few. If democracy still means anything at all in this country the British people must register their feelings clearly at the ballot box. Unless there is a rapid change in political direction the future is looking extremely ugly.

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Tracy Hill's avatar

Our many and their few only has meaning if there's a civil war. The "many" will still continue to vote for Labour or the Tories. Reform are leading the polls but Labour's share has not dropped that much.

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Iris February's avatar

Sadly our elections due for this May have been cancelled by our corrupt leaders.

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Colin Sworder's avatar

Perhaps g*y f**-es had a point!

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Sam's avatar

What a complete disgrace. I don't know how we can take four more years of this.

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Cattmint's avatar

As a landlord, no matter the financial incentive (of my and other taxpayers mone)I will NEVER rent to house immigrants.

I pray other landlords feel the same. Although I feel this sentiment won't run to "all" landlords.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

This all part of Rayners plans to get them out of hotels, and get the costs of away from Central coffers to Local monies, so can expect and already Council Tax rises. Already many sent around country and taking preference over locals on Housing lists. Have seen Glasgow already saying cannot cope with costs and numbers they sent.

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Christopher H's avatar

Mass immigration was always the New Labour plan to destroy Britain and turn the country into a mitteleuropäisch state. Ruled from Brussels. With Blair as President. Starmer is carrying on this policy encouraging immigrants. One element of this strategy is the refusal to hold a National Inquiry into rape gangs

Behind closed doors closer EU integration is taking place. Defence being used in particular.

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KATHLEEN PIMLETT's avatar

It looks very much like the Defence pact is a de facto Associate Membership because it comes with lots of strings attached to other areas. This was discussed ad nauseam during Teresa May's disastrous negotiations and was rejected at every turn as a poor substitute for a clean break. Starmer is indeed using it as a vehicle for closer alignment and the ultimate betrayal of our sovereignty, over the explicit wishes of the British people. Is there any other definition of 'traitor' more apt?

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Christopher H's avatar

In the past our Defence Chiefs have been against. Not sure about this current lot. Labour using Ukraine and Trump as cover at the same time spouting off about how important NATO is. It’s as readable as a book.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

It now the WEF and even though these globalists, - Blair and puppet Starmer leading, - MSM saw fit not to report this, same as they never report the protests around country, …. Only when Starm gives instructions to film low level aggression to help his aim to imprison.

‘Schwab’s resignation marks the end of a 54-year career at the top of the WEF, and follows a previous board investigation into its workplace.’

The WEF’ Klaus Schwab has fallen, he’s been a bad lad! An interim boss appointed but this the post Blair wants,…..! (Remember it thought Bliar is Starms handler for WEF.)

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/apr/24/wef-launches-investigation-into-founder-klaus-schwab#:~:text=Schwab%2C%2087%2C%20is%20said%20to,founded%20the%20WEF%20in%201971.

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Christopher H's avatar

Forgot to add

Leaks coming out about

Labour falling

over backwards to help EU youth come to Britain.

At the same time shafting British fishermen and farmers.

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

He’s using letting France have our fishing grounds he so desperate to get back into EU. He hoping on EU wanting very much,- as he knows they are. Due to our discipline in battle and to complete mission, - to get the British Military in their ‘army’, that it’ll be his door to taking UK back into EU. A Brit PM that anti democracy, + Treasonous selling out our Army, - in days of old he’d be H drawn and Q.

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Christopher H's avatar

You have probably seen British Soldiers if they go to Ukraine could be face ECHR prosecutions. Knowing the propensity of Labour to haul our soldiers in front of the Courts the British Military need to watch their backs. It would be an extremely difficult “peacekeeping” operation.

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Stout Yeoman's avatar

Schopenhauer (in 1851): "The majority of men...are not capable of thinking, but only believing, and ... are not accessible to reason, but only to authority".

The authority most are subservient to, and the beliefs laid out for them to follow, come from media narratives that either support or are fed to them by Labour. Thus polls show support for Labour at 22 to 23% still - still! - despite the government's already calamitous record. Also, the public sector and benefits recipients are a huge voting block. They may clamour for yet more excessive pay rises by threats of strikes, but come a general election few will vote for parties that would affect their cosseted existence.

Reform may pick up a 'plague on all their houses' protest votes in local elections and Westminster by-elections, but deeper change in party support will only come when the country has been so incompetently run that breakdown cannot be ignored even by state employees as happened in 1979. That will come about from Labour's economic failure already underway and continuing social breakdown that becomes even more visible and can no longer be dismissed as isolated and one off incidents.

I hope Reform does well on 1 May, but it won't change Labour's policies. Instead, Labour's counter tactics will likely become nasty, underhand, and anti-democratic. As T E Utley remarked in 1974 a government that fails to preserve cultural and moral unity - mass migration makes that a forlorn task now - can only govern by increasing tyranny. Thus the laws trying to control the internet - Ofcom and the online harms act, NCHIs - and the burgeoning public order powers. All set to get much worse as Reform rises. Expect, digital ID, digital currency and mass surveillance with facial recognition.

The Tories failed Brexit - legacy tariffs, for example, that we could have repealed were not - and Starmer is re-entangling us by stealth in multiple ways. We'll be more or less back in by 2029 but with smoke and mirrors to disguise just how far under EU rules and Court we actually are.

2029 will be decisive and if Reform end up in government their task will be Herculean. If they fail, if the right becomes even more discredited, it will be the end of a Britain I once knew.

Incidentally, the true architect of the end of Britain was Roy Jenkins who, in 1966, in response to riots then, started the doctrine of multiculturalism saying groups of imported people would live in tolerance and harmony with each other. Race relations were becoming a problem in the 60s and in May 1966 Jenkins declared integration was

... not as a flattening process of assimilation but as equal opportunity, accompanied by cultural diversity, in an atmosphere of mutual tolerance.

That really was the disastrous, naive belief that got establishment wide traction when he was Home Secretary in 1974. Our problems pre-date Blair.

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Arabella's avatar

"mutual tolerance". How's that working out for Christians in the Middle East and Africa?

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Sarah Mumford's avatar

If Reform does win many seats in May it’ll give the country a chance to see how they cope, how they as a whole Party cope and progress, - whether Farage and Yusuf have learned to steer a Party and it no longer all about them. Therefore whether they worth voting for in a General Election.

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G Peel's avatar

Can the government not be sued for inappropriate use of public funds? Or abuse of public funding? We need to beat the left at their own game!

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badger's avatar

Or illegal indirect racial discrimination - the scheme favours the racial groups who most often arrive here illegally. But we don't really have rule of law in this country. There are plenty of politicised, activist judges to rule in the government's favour.

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elsa's avatar

Hes part of a bigger problem

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