Poor girls and poor boys. According to the Baroness Casey report, 22% of the victims were male, 24% of the perpetrators female. I've left a more detailed comment below.
Yes I totally agree, in this pro feminist world we live in boys are frequently forgotten, many of these children were boys, and many died of AIDS. I think that all these perpetrators and their complicit families should be deported. It is about time somebody is prepared to speak the truth/
The latest from Raja Miah on substack is well worth a look. He has dissected her record and it doesn’t look good for the inquiry. Even if she had a blemish free record and was completely independent, the optics of this look terrible. Labour are desperate to kick this into the long grass, hide the truth and the horrors they’ve been covering up for votes. It stinks. They stink.
You only have to read the Baroness Casey report to know this is fit up. This woman is for want of a better term a "plant". Safe and effective institutional control. When they close ranks they close ranks. All of this govt, as far as I can see, with the Conservatives before them are corrupt, morally bankrupt and with mainstream media, guilty of one of the greatest coverups ever seen. Raja Meah, whom I really urge you to read and understand his position, has the dirt on al of them, over 300 hundred children were prosecuted as child prostitutes. Just watch this dating back to 2008. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRLEutWw/ Who is going to hold these people to account. We need full scale and unchecked prosecution of everyone involved and this goes right up to Jess Philips. Our political system is broken, run by peado protectors, a PM who could not lie strait in bed. When are we going to wake up as one and tell these naysayers to go?
Not independent and reeks of Labour peer marking Labour councils. I sense it will be woeful and a new inquiry needed under the next government to deliver full justice to the perpetrators and those in authority that turned a blind eye. Public servants involved should be sacked and have pension rights removed.
I hope those girls and young women do get the reckoning they have waited so long for. It will be a real tragedy if this inquiry turns out to be a shambolic a*se-covering exercise. Labour have limited the remit and the timescale and the finances. Not sure I trust a Labour peer as Chair. Presumably not investigating previously unexamined regions is to provide cover for their best mate Khan. Maggie Oliver has no trust in it and she probably has more experience in this field than anyone else. She certainly has the survivors’ best interests at heart. We must wait and see, but this government has done nothing but prevaricate and obfuscate all the way along this pathway and it is difficult to believe they will carry this through with good faith.
The only certainty Matt about this latest public enquiry is that it will follow the path of all previous public enquiries and take twice as long,cost twice as much,fudge every important issue and end with a report so long nobody will ever read it.
What is really needed is a truly independent rigorous enquiry purely into those involved who failed the girls involved such as Police,social services and local councils.
Why the Department of Education appears to be excluded is beyond belief. A lot of the poor girls were apparently let down by multiple agencies, collected from schools, and taken away to be abused. I certainly don't trust this stitch up with a Labour chair / organiser, fixed term. Appoint Rupert Lowe who is at least determined to get to the bottom of the issue, and the police officer who did a lot of the investigation whose name I forget. This investigation been needs terriers not dogs with no sense of smell, because this stinks to high heaven.
Labour will run up its shiny new flag. As usual, the flagpole is rotten to the core. UKIP put out a leaflet back in I think 2015 pointing out that the grooming gang scandals were pretty much all in Labour run councils. There is no way on God's green earth that Labour will countenance this scandal being officially recognised and the proper action taken.
Plus ca change.........
In 5 months, we have the local and a few mayoral elections not cancelled by Labour because it knows it will lose. I am confident that Reform UK will sweep to victory. In many cases, this will not give the party overall control because a lot of authorities elect a third of concillors at a time. So we will have to wait until 2027 to really clear the decks.
Given the damage this shower have inflicted upon the country in 18 months, I shudder to think what more damage will be done after another 18.
At least Nigel has met Jordan Bardella. I get all the RN mail shots and the party is consistently railing against the illegals, soaring living costs and higher taxes. Exactly the same as here. The RN solution is to intern and deport. This is what we should be doing. Never mind the lack of prison space. Build internment camps. They can go up very quickly indeed. Lots of razor wire and marquees. Inside the perimiter wire is a warning wire. Cross that and you get shot without warning. Job done.
It’s now so obvious that Labour - or indeed the Uniparty in all its variants - is concerned to stifle public controversy of any kind which makes their life as ‘managers’ more difficult. Their ideal is public passivity which thinks that electing a new variant of the Uniparty to govern every few years is quite enough democracy thank you.
The media could not stop talking about Grenfell. Nonstop bleating specifically about the victims' ethnicities and that they were some of poorest in society. As usual much more valued than working class white girls. The budget disparity is shocking. Especially given the straightforward single location and therefore relatively small level of investigation needed for Grenfell, compared to the multiple separate local investigations needed for the rape gangs. Moreover, no one deliberately burned down Grenfell. Yet the Pakistani rapists deliberately targetted and groomed white children in care. The equivalent would be a group of white people deliberately setting fire to the cladding. It is all totally shameful. The woke left aren't even trying to hide the blatant fact that they hate white Brits and worship immigrants. (And I see this regularly in the bizarre way some friends behave towards different ethnicities.). Total shit show all of it.
The Pakistanis' have a culture (the shared knowledge, beliefs, practices, and values of a group.). If not investigated and described the differing views on it will fester in the dark . Everyone making up their own mind and no attempt to understand and address issues openly. But I want to know "What the hell did these men think? What did their families think? What did their wider community think and why did no-one act? Were sexism and sectarianism significant factors?
The children, the girls, were let down by two interacting cultures. The lanyard/elites and the Pakistani community. I agree with your view on the exclusion of government agencies. But the omission of the role of the institutions of the mainly Pakistani community is a very dangerous move. It signals a green light that there could be “nothing wrong there”. Given the numbers, I would like some proof of that please.
We hear much about Community Leaders (Maliks or Sardars), Mosques & Imams, Councillors & MPs, Associations & Jirga like Councils, and any unofficial courts. The Pakistani rural culture appears much more hierarchical and top down with authority rooted in tradition and communal enforcement. How come nothing was done by these institutions? No-one knew? I doubt that. Or no one cared?
We need to understand the role of the "community leaders", the imams, the families who champion and support these criminals as if they were innocent. We need to understand the relationship between these larger family and other structures and UK existing political structures. There are all sorts of hints about (postal) votes for sale, political favours, and all sorts of corruption that surrounded this. How bad is it? I worry.
We also need to understand the relationship between the perpetrators, their wider culture and structures and wider criminality, again hints of drug dealing and what else? And their perceived relationship with the laws and customs of Britain. What else do these communities think is behaviour that should be just quietly hidden? But I fear that then questions about this issue will be cast as Racist or Islamophobic.
If it looks like a rat, smells like a rat, then in all probability it is a rat. Will there never be any justice for these poor girls?
Poor girls and poor boys. According to the Baroness Casey report, 22% of the victims were male, 24% of the perpetrators female. I've left a more detailed comment below.
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LAUGHING AT FEMINISTS http://laughingatfeminists.com
Yes I totally agree, in this pro feminist world we live in boys are frequently forgotten, many of these children were boys, and many died of AIDS. I think that all these perpetrators and their complicit families should be deported. It is about time somebody is prepared to speak the truth/
This is an insult to all those traumatised children, because it will not be a serious enquiry.
It will be controlled by an insider from the Labour party and will be a whitewash.
The latest from Raja Miah on substack is well worth a look. He has dissected her record and it doesn’t look good for the inquiry. Even if she had a blemish free record and was completely independent, the optics of this look terrible. Labour are desperate to kick this into the long grass, hide the truth and the horrors they’ve been covering up for votes. It stinks. They stink.
We may as well forget about this enquiry and do it again when we have a government with a moral compass and its priorities straight.
It’s difficult to have hope. Labour looks like it has been underhand as usual. There should be impartial examiners. Whitewash here we come.
You only have to read the Baroness Casey report to know this is fit up. This woman is for want of a better term a "plant". Safe and effective institutional control. When they close ranks they close ranks. All of this govt, as far as I can see, with the Conservatives before them are corrupt, morally bankrupt and with mainstream media, guilty of one of the greatest coverups ever seen. Raja Meah, whom I really urge you to read and understand his position, has the dirt on al of them, over 300 hundred children were prosecuted as child prostitutes. Just watch this dating back to 2008. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRLEutWw/ Who is going to hold these people to account. We need full scale and unchecked prosecution of everyone involved and this goes right up to Jess Philips. Our political system is broken, run by peado protectors, a PM who could not lie strait in bed. When are we going to wake up as one and tell these naysayers to go?
Raja Miah is an extremely brave man.
Not independent and reeks of Labour peer marking Labour councils. I sense it will be woeful and a new inquiry needed under the next government to deliver full justice to the perpetrators and those in authority that turned a blind eye. Public servants involved should be sacked and have pension rights removed.
That's why we need a Reform government that will take this seriously
I thought they too promised an inquiry.
Labour want to protect their own. Full stop.
Can’t really see it any other way.
Military saying "you must want to do it". This Government does not want to do it and will orchestrate some sort of cover up.
I hope those girls and young women do get the reckoning they have waited so long for. It will be a real tragedy if this inquiry turns out to be a shambolic a*se-covering exercise. Labour have limited the remit and the timescale and the finances. Not sure I trust a Labour peer as Chair. Presumably not investigating previously unexamined regions is to provide cover for their best mate Khan. Maggie Oliver has no trust in it and she probably has more experience in this field than anyone else. She certainly has the survivors’ best interests at heart. We must wait and see, but this government has done nothing but prevaricate and obfuscate all the way along this pathway and it is difficult to believe they will carry this through with good faith.
The only certainty Matt about this latest public enquiry is that it will follow the path of all previous public enquiries and take twice as long,cost twice as much,fudge every important issue and end with a report so long nobody will ever read it.
What is really needed is a truly independent rigorous enquiry purely into those involved who failed the girls involved such as Police,social services and local councils.
Why the Department of Education appears to be excluded is beyond belief. A lot of the poor girls were apparently let down by multiple agencies, collected from schools, and taken away to be abused. I certainly don't trust this stitch up with a Labour chair / organiser, fixed term. Appoint Rupert Lowe who is at least determined to get to the bottom of the issue, and the police officer who did a lot of the investigation whose name I forget. This investigation been needs terriers not dogs with no sense of smell, because this stinks to high heaven.
Labour will run up its shiny new flag. As usual, the flagpole is rotten to the core. UKIP put out a leaflet back in I think 2015 pointing out that the grooming gang scandals were pretty much all in Labour run councils. There is no way on God's green earth that Labour will countenance this scandal being officially recognised and the proper action taken.
Plus ca change.........
In 5 months, we have the local and a few mayoral elections not cancelled by Labour because it knows it will lose. I am confident that Reform UK will sweep to victory. In many cases, this will not give the party overall control because a lot of authorities elect a third of concillors at a time. So we will have to wait until 2027 to really clear the decks.
Given the damage this shower have inflicted upon the country in 18 months, I shudder to think what more damage will be done after another 18.
At least Nigel has met Jordan Bardella. I get all the RN mail shots and the party is consistently railing against the illegals, soaring living costs and higher taxes. Exactly the same as here. The RN solution is to intern and deport. This is what we should be doing. Never mind the lack of prison space. Build internment camps. They can go up very quickly indeed. Lots of razor wire and marquees. Inside the perimiter wire is a warning wire. Cross that and you get shot without warning. Job done.
It’s now so obvious that Labour - or indeed the Uniparty in all its variants - is concerned to stifle public controversy of any kind which makes their life as ‘managers’ more difficult. Their ideal is public passivity which thinks that electing a new variant of the Uniparty to govern every few years is quite enough democracy thank you.
The media could not stop talking about Grenfell. Nonstop bleating specifically about the victims' ethnicities and that they were some of poorest in society. As usual much more valued than working class white girls. The budget disparity is shocking. Especially given the straightforward single location and therefore relatively small level of investigation needed for Grenfell, compared to the multiple separate local investigations needed for the rape gangs. Moreover, no one deliberately burned down Grenfell. Yet the Pakistani rapists deliberately targetted and groomed white children in care. The equivalent would be a group of white people deliberately setting fire to the cladding. It is all totally shameful. The woke left aren't even trying to hide the blatant fact that they hate white Brits and worship immigrants. (And I see this regularly in the bizarre way some friends behave towards different ethnicities.). Total shit show all of it.
The Pakistanis' have a culture (the shared knowledge, beliefs, practices, and values of a group.). If not investigated and described the differing views on it will fester in the dark . Everyone making up their own mind and no attempt to understand and address issues openly. But I want to know "What the hell did these men think? What did their families think? What did their wider community think and why did no-one act? Were sexism and sectarianism significant factors?
The children, the girls, were let down by two interacting cultures. The lanyard/elites and the Pakistani community. I agree with your view on the exclusion of government agencies. But the omission of the role of the institutions of the mainly Pakistani community is a very dangerous move. It signals a green light that there could be “nothing wrong there”. Given the numbers, I would like some proof of that please.
We hear much about Community Leaders (Maliks or Sardars), Mosques & Imams, Councillors & MPs, Associations & Jirga like Councils, and any unofficial courts. The Pakistani rural culture appears much more hierarchical and top down with authority rooted in tradition and communal enforcement. How come nothing was done by these institutions? No-one knew? I doubt that. Or no one cared?
We need to understand the role of the "community leaders", the imams, the families who champion and support these criminals as if they were innocent. We need to understand the relationship between these larger family and other structures and UK existing political structures. There are all sorts of hints about (postal) votes for sale, political favours, and all sorts of corruption that surrounded this. How bad is it? I worry.
We also need to understand the relationship between the perpetrators, their wider culture and structures and wider criminality, again hints of drug dealing and what else? And their perceived relationship with the laws and customs of Britain. What else do these communities think is behaviour that should be just quietly hidden? But I fear that then questions about this issue will be cast as Racist or Islamophobic.
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